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cris
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Now that AZ has done some Theobens specifically for benchrest, how are they shooting and what is he recommending to be done for benchrest? Thanks.
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I don't have one but what I see in the results says they are definitely capable of winning any match. It will be interesting to keep an eye on the results as more shooters discover the joy of AGBR. I have a Daystate CRX that appears to be pretty capable. I am also anxious to see how the LG110 Steyr's do so I hope somebody brings one out to a match somewhere. Hopefully we can get some FT guys to come out to AGBR matches.
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Paul Bendix
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Cris,
I bought two Theobens from AZ for Bench Rest shooting. one in .177 and another in .22. If I had a chance to do over, I would buy a factory unit from David Slade and see how it shoots. If it needed help would send it to 220 Swift or buy his parts.
The factory stock is useless for benchrest. I did have Gary Lemons make two stocks for me. The stocks are great.
Both barrels shaved at the transfer port. The .22 grouped 1 1/2 inch at 25 yards and the .177 a little over an inch. AZ packs the rear o ring with lead packing and both packing came undone and damaged both o rings.
For the AZ $$ I got His bolt handles and scope mounting rails milled (not blued). Both guns shoot better without his shrouds.
The .177 is shooting 3/8 to 1/4 groups with my polishing everything and my own springs with a homemade Mod.
The .22 is waiting for a barrel from David Slade. I borrowed a barrel that shot great and put it on my gun and the groups went from 1 1/2 inch down to almost 3/8 inch.
The mags are useless for BR if you want a good score. Single shot is a must.
Paul Bendix
I bought two Theobens from AZ for Bench Rest shooting. one in .177 and another in .22. If I had a chance to do over, I would buy a factory unit from David Slade and see how it shoots. If it needed help would send it to 220 Swift or buy his parts.
The factory stock is useless for benchrest. I did have Gary Lemons make two stocks for me. The stocks are great.
Both barrels shaved at the transfer port. The .22 grouped 1 1/2 inch at 25 yards and the .177 a little over an inch. AZ packs the rear o ring with lead packing and both packing came undone and damaged both o rings.
For the AZ $$ I got His bolt handles and scope mounting rails milled (not blued). Both guns shoot better without his shrouds.
The .177 is shooting 3/8 to 1/4 groups with my polishing everything and my own springs with a homemade Mod.
The .22 is waiting for a barrel from David Slade. I borrowed a barrel that shot great and put it on my gun and the groups went from 1 1/2 inch down to almost 3/8 inch.
The mags are useless for BR if you want a good score. Single shot is a must.
Paul Bendix
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cris
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Thanks
Thanks for your input.
Paul, Can you point me to David Slade and 220 Swift?
Thanks for your input.
Paul, Can you point me to David Slade and 220 Swift?
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Paul Bendix
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Cris,
David Slade Phone # 931-565-4841
His Website is
theobenusa.com
email airgunwerk@aol.com
220swift can be reached on airgunadvice.net forum
Paul
David Slade Phone # 931-565-4841
His Website is
theobenusa.com
email airgunwerk@aol.com
220swift can be reached on airgunadvice.net forum
Paul
HP100's
Can't give you any info on any of AZ's but I can tell you that my HP100 is an excellent shooter right out of the box. Last year I shot it in stock form, all I did was add a bolt on plate to the forearm. It does use a lot of air so I connect mine directly to a tank. Mine is .177 cal and I've also got a LW 5mm barrel to try this year.
Dennis
Can't give you any info on any of AZ's but I can tell you that my HP100 is an excellent shooter right out of the box. Last year I shot it in stock form, all I did was add a bolt on plate to the forearm. It does use a lot of air so I connect mine directly to a tank. Mine is .177 cal and I've also got a LW 5mm barrel to try this year.
Dennis
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cris
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Wow
There is more to this than at first meets the eye.
Theobens are nice, the Airwolf is nicer and the Steyr 110HP is expensive right out of the box. AZ does great work. Joe Korick is a genius and 220Swift is my pick for machinist of the year. Obviously, this is not a cheap way to get into benchrest, ammo may be cheaper but that is all. More reading for me, thanks for your help.
There is more to this than at first meets the eye.
Theobens are nice, the Airwolf is nicer and the Steyr 110HP is expensive right out of the box. AZ does great work. Joe Korick is a genius and 220Swift is my pick for machinist of the year. Obviously, this is not a cheap way to get into benchrest, ammo may be cheaper but that is all. More reading for me, thanks for your help.
I bought a Steyr Model 91 for $625. Add a Weaver 36 and I am ready with something I think can do well and possibly win in the Match class. It can also be used in the Unlimited class and if the wind is not too bad it should be competitive. There are relatively cheap guns out there if you are quick when they show up for sale.
Also, if you buy used it should never depreciate.
Also, if you buy used it should never depreciate.
Cheap Competition?
To be at the top of any competition is not cheap but as a shooting sport goes airgunning is about as good as it gets. The initial cost of the gear is about the same as centerfire or rimfire but the ammo costs really add up. Just calculate the cost of 4 or 5 cases of Eley black box against the same number of top end pellets and that's where the difference is. Buy the best gun you can possibly afford if your serious or you'll just be buying another gun soon, not that that's a bad thing come to think of it.
Dennis D.
To be at the top of any competition is not cheap but as a shooting sport goes airgunning is about as good as it gets. The initial cost of the gear is about the same as centerfire or rimfire but the ammo costs really add up. Just calculate the cost of 4 or 5 cases of Eley black box against the same number of top end pellets and that's where the difference is. Buy the best gun you can possibly afford if your serious or you'll just be buying another gun soon, not that that's a bad thing come to think of it.
Dennis D.
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cris
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Oh Well
It's only money. Rapid, Airwolf or Steyr. For benchrest, the barrel must be excellent and there seem to be people that have developed methods of lapping and crowning to improve accuracy. The trigger must be important but each is different. The 10m guns appear to carry the best reputation in triggers. The loading port is next since a single shot will provide the best results. Last, a stock that rides the bags well is going to be a custom proposition.
So how do you choose?
It's only money. Rapid, Airwolf or Steyr. For benchrest, the barrel must be excellent and there seem to be people that have developed methods of lapping and crowning to improve accuracy. The trigger must be important but each is different. The 10m guns appear to carry the best reputation in triggers. The loading port is next since a single shot will provide the best results. Last, a stock that rides the bags well is going to be a custom proposition.
So how do you choose?
How to choose.
That's a tough one if you've never handled one before. Try to get a hold of a few to try, even the 10m guns all feel very different. Check to see if there is an airgun group in your area. Most shooters would be happy to let you try one. Since this is benchrest accuracy is all important, if it won't stack one pellet right on top of the other you'll be frustrated. Besides the 10m guns all are also available as FT models. What class are you going to shoot in?
Dennis
That's a tough one if you've never handled one before. Try to get a hold of a few to try, even the 10m guns all feel very different. Check to see if there is an airgun group in your area. Most shooters would be happy to let you try one. Since this is benchrest accuracy is all important, if it won't stack one pellet right on top of the other you'll be frustrated. Besides the 10m guns all are also available as FT models. What class are you going to shoot in?
Dennis
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cris
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Thank You
I did have an opportunity to try some 10m guns and the triggers were excellent. I will continue to read so, at least, my questions become more informed. The Steyr 110 is said to have a very nice trigger. The stock looks to be the problem area. Thanks for all of your input.
I did have an opportunity to try some 10m guns and the triggers were excellent. I will continue to read so, at least, my questions become more informed. The Steyr 110 is said to have a very nice trigger. The stock looks to be the problem area. Thanks for all of your input.