Absolute proper scope mounting tecnique.

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DOUG DOTY

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I always here from guys that you just do not through a scope on a rifle.... there is a proper procedure, I have heard them mention lapping rings and other things... Can someone with experiance chime in on this. I am moving from my savage and a Leu. 4-1 to this new Anschutz 64 S BR with a Weaver T36 scope and as of now will be using the Anschutz rings I ordered with the gun, unless I learn something here to make me do differently. Give me a list of do's and don'ts to get this as right as I and my friends here know how.

Thanks,
Doug...
 
A couple of options

I have never found a set of Anschutz rings I liked.

All my Anschutz riles are on the 54 actions; however I believe the bases will be the same.

I have been very happy with the Burris Signature Rings with the inserts. Simpley use Weaver bases.

For a more light weight setup have bases made that will accept Kelby rings.
 
Doug, this is a great question with a very proper answer :)

The very MOST important tool for you to have is a Kokopelli Alignment kit. A set of Kokopelli Alignment Bars simply SHOW YOU any misalignment in the system, and there WILL BE misalignment! THEN you can lap, bed, ream bend, fold, spindle or mutilate to your heart's content but KNOWING how to check for alignment.

Don't even consider the Brownell pointy "scope alignment tool" it's WORSE than useless.

Here's a link to Kokopelli http://www.kokopelliproducts.com/



And here's a link to an old thread that you may find useful.

http://www.benchrest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40244&highlight=alinwa+kokopelli



Feel free to keep asking questions if this thread doesn't answer you.


al
 
Just to add to Al's post, seldom do a set of mounts actually fit the receiver 100%. A set of Kokopelli bars will show you at a glance how far the rings are out of alignment. Finding where, the fit between the mount and receiver, the rings, etc is the fun part.
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In that picture you can see a shim under the front of the mount. After the action was straightened, the ring deburred and the screws were just snugged (not tightened or torqued) the bars indicated the front was low. BTW, don't think for a moment you can't flex a one piece mount with those little 6-48 screws! After bedding the mount to the receiver I also bed the rings. For that I use one of a series of tubes I ground from.995" to 1.005" in .001" increments that is .002"-.003" under the tube diameter. Lapping is fine, but it also makes the ID of the rings larger...you may lose some clamping force on the tube. When the scope is set in the rings, the top halves installed and the screw lightly tightened you can't move the scope by hand. If any adjustments are required, the top needs to be loosened, the scope lifted free of the bedding and everything re-tightened. I also use a bore sighter during the initial setup to help make sure if the barrel is pointed north and the scope isn't pointed east! Its just a rough "guessestimate" that two agree to some extent.
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The final results, the mount(s) fit the receiver perfectly, the scope is held securely and unstressed , but most importantly, nothing moves. BTW, I do not use Loctite on the screws and to date have never antythng come loose.

Right, wrong, agree , disagree or indifferent, for the last 20 or so years its how I do them.

Bill
 
I love this sight, My first love is heads up drag racing and last year the guys here in the gun smithing section had a discussion on lathes for use in doing bbl. work. I was in the market myself too for my shop and bought the favorite at the time. To that end I will make up a few 1.000 undersize mandrels just for this use, I have plenty 1.00 chrome moly tube laying around here. I will be clamping the rings off of a grooved reciever on the Anschutz reciever top so hopefully it will be reasonably close to straight and any issues found will be in the rings to start with. I may try to do a few photos as I go along as a partial re-payment to this forum.

Thanks for the help..
 
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