Well the load data shows that a max charge of varget and a max charge of benchmark is only 120 or fps difference in velocity with a 165 grain projectile. I have a new rifle and am trying new powders. A friend gave me a pound of benchmark and says that his rifle (also a .308) loves it with all weights up to 175 grains. He also says that the recoil is more of just a push than a punch. Varget definitely has the punch. So I appreciate all feedback from those who have used benchmark.