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trazman
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Is it better to use the magnum primer or the the standard primer? which one do you suggest?
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david dumas
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fed mag rifle # 215 or GM215
the wind is my friend,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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the wind is my friend,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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nhkuehl
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I'd use what ever your loading manual(s) suggest. Normally you would use a standard primer for extruded powder and magnum primers for ball powder or cold weather shooting. There are differences in primers and you will probably find one that works best for you. - nhk
Doug Casner
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I just loaded barrel breakin loads for my son in laws 300 wsm. Put standard win. primers in then I read in one of my manuels to use magnum primers. They all seemed to go off fine with the standard. Shot about 2 inches or so. Itll probably settle down when I dont clean barrel so much. Ive used both in my 300 win. mag. Ill use mags in the next batch. I dont know if you could tell which primer you had by standing behind the rifle when it went off anyway unless it misfired. I used RL 19.
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mike in co
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i have used std in both 7rem mag and 300 win mag with h4831 no issues....'but when i built my 1000yd 300 win mag br rifle, i went with mag primers( wolf lrm) and again with h4831 no issues.
mike in co
mike in co
According to German Salazar, the Wolf "magnum" primers, even in LR, are the same compound but with a stouter cup. If effect then, you're shooting a "standard" primer with your 300 Win Mag.
They have worked just fine in my .30/8x68 with H4831-SC, BTW.
Bill Wynne
Active member
From my Sierra Reloading Manual Fifth Edition:
The primer they used for testing loads was the Federal 215 which is a large rifle magnum primer. They used many brands on different rifles but they seem to use magnum primers in the belted magnum cases. Large rifle refers to the diameter of the primer.
You simply cannot go wrong by following one of the accepted reloading manuals such as the Sierra Manual.
Concho Bill
The primer they used for testing loads was the Federal 215 which is a large rifle magnum primer. They used many brands on different rifles but they seem to use magnum primers in the belted magnum cases. Large rifle refers to the diameter of the primer.
You simply cannot go wrong by following one of the accepted reloading manuals such as the Sierra Manual.
Concho Bill
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Cheechako
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Everyone has their own opinion and favorite. I suppose it boils down to how you define "better".
Even amongst the different brands of primers there are differences bewteen what manufacturers call "Magnum". Some are hotter than others and some may be no hotter than a "standard" primer of another maker.
I use nothing but Federal 215M. I don't think you can find a hotter primer. But, you also have to be aware of what happens in hot weather. I use a cooler to try and maintain a lower temperature when the outside turns really hot and humid.
JMHO
Ray
Even amongst the different brands of primers there are differences bewteen what manufacturers call "Magnum". Some are hotter than others and some may be no hotter than a "standard" primer of another maker.
I use nothing but Federal 215M. I don't think you can find a hotter primer. But, you also have to be aware of what happens in hot weather. I use a cooler to try and maintain a lower temperature when the outside turns really hot and humid.
JMHO
Ray
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mike in co
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bottom line is performance....
208 amax, hbn coating, broughton(sp) bbl 30.3 long 1/11 twist. h4831, 2950fps .31/.32 at 200 yds....
mik ein co
208 amax, hbn coating, broughton(sp) bbl 30.3 long 1/11 twist. h4831, 2950fps .31/.32 at 200 yds....
mik ein co
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Greg Culpepper
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trazman,
In magnum match loads ( 7 Rem Mag, 308 Norma Mag 300 WM, using 65-75 grains of slow extruded powders) which are always shot in moderate to hot temperatures because of match dates, I use Fed 210 standard primers. For magnum hunting loads (in the same cartridges) which are likely shot in cold weather or very slow powders (H1000, H870 VV 170) or very large capacity cases like the Ultra Mags or 416 Rigby or large black powder loads I use Fed 215 magnum primers. If I were in Slovinia I'd try to get some RWS primers.
Greg
In magnum match loads ( 7 Rem Mag, 308 Norma Mag 300 WM, using 65-75 grains of slow extruded powders) which are always shot in moderate to hot temperatures because of match dates, I use Fed 210 standard primers. For magnum hunting loads (in the same cartridges) which are likely shot in cold weather or very slow powders (H1000, H870 VV 170) or very large capacity cases like the Ultra Mags or 416 Rigby or large black powder loads I use Fed 215 magnum primers. If I were in Slovinia I'd try to get some RWS primers.
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trazman
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Do you think that RWS primers are superior then others? I think that i will use federal 210 gold medal match primers, maybe i will try the RWS if i can get them...
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Greg Culpepper
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Trasman,
My only personal experience with RWS primers was 35 years ago when I was excited about the occasional 1/2" 100 yd group from a factory hunting rifle. They seemed better at the time but I certainly can't make any claims. I do think I know that uniform primers on the mild side (just hot enough for consistent ignition of the powder type, load density and case capacity used) produce the best potential for precision results. RWS primers have a reputation for just that but are as far as I know not generally available here in the USA. The fact that I can't get any makes them even more desirable, of course. If I actually knew that they produced better results than the primers I have and have access to my misery would be complete.
By the way, the 210's that I use are the Gold Medal Match version that you mention. I believe that Federal 210M's were the most commonly used primers in cases of your general capacity among the IBS 1K shooters that I competed with.
Greg
My only personal experience with RWS primers was 35 years ago when I was excited about the occasional 1/2" 100 yd group from a factory hunting rifle. They seemed better at the time but I certainly can't make any claims. I do think I know that uniform primers on the mild side (just hot enough for consistent ignition of the powder type, load density and case capacity used) produce the best potential for precision results. RWS primers have a reputation for just that but are as far as I know not generally available here in the USA. The fact that I can't get any makes them even more desirable, of course. If I actually knew that they produced better results than the primers I have and have access to my misery would be complete.
By the way, the 210's that I use are the Gold Medal Match version that you mention. I believe that Federal 210M's were the most commonly used primers in cases of your general capacity among the IBS 1K shooters that I competed with.
Greg
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trazman
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Trasman,
My only personal experience with RWS primers was 35 years ago when I was excited about the occasional 1/2" 100 yd group from a factory hunting rifle. They seemed better at the time but I certainly can't make any claims. I do think I know that uniform primers on the mild side (just hot enough for consistent ignition of the powder type, load density and case capacity used) produce the best potential for precision results. RWS primers have a reputation for just that but are as far as I know not generally available here in the USA. The fact that I can't get any makes them even more desirable, of course. If I actually knew that they produced better results than the primers I have and have access to my misery would be complete.
By the way, the 210's that I use are the Gold Medal Match version that you mention. I believe that Federal 210M's were the most commonly used primers in cases of your general capacity among the IBS 1K shooters that I competed with.
Greg
Good, i will go for federal 210m, and if i can get, i will try also the RWS...
Is it legal to send primers overseas?
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mike in co
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primers are an EXPOSIVE...
probably not illegal, but gonna be exspensive......
mike in co
probably not illegal, but gonna be exspensive......
mike in co