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well, i shot a personal best 5 shot practice/load testing group there today. problem is, there is no tree that would have mattered, it the sky was low and air still. they only took the beetle kill it looks like to me. it is opened up some, time will tell. tom

Meplat trimming by OAL or ogive whos trimmer pointer read through these two threads and see if you still have questions, or are more confused. the one thing you did'nt ask about, witch is the one thing i would think is first on the "important" list, is bearing surface length comparitors. while...

there is a "new scopes" button you can click on. tom

thats a sweet target she has there, now i really have cabin fever. tom

joe, the answer is.... maybe maybe not, and can't proove it yet. 4 of the 5 100's i shot last year were with pointed only bullets. BUT the vertical agg was smaller with bullets trimmed and then pointed. couple that with the fact that conditions just so happened to be better when i was shooting...

dave, we definately agree there, we would'nt be shooting dashers if we did'nt. i wonder if the yaw is harder to tune out with our 8 twist dashers than say the 30's with slower twists? i am going down to missoula monday to start testing with a new lot of bullets. i will pay attention to the...

what was the combo that made the meplat hole in the center of the black? none of my stuff has ever been centered up like this, now i will lose sleep over that toooooo, thanks alot dave. :eek: tom

dave, i was refering to o.a.l. differences, and weather or not they matter as it applies to the final b.c.? but on the subject of how much it really matters as it applies to our demands is a huge ? we can't really test, unless someone has a 1000yard tunnel? was it the base to ogive, bearing...

ogive+1 most of us are sorting by bearing surface length, or at least base to ogive length. so either way you end up with the same oal for a particular "group" of bullets anyway. i am not sure what the b.c. difference is between 2 bullets if bullet a is 1.237 and bullet b is 1.232. i really have...

bring a megophone device though as he is getting hard of hearing.

i agree, mine has a 35*shoulder and .010 taper. if i was to make any change i might have gone .015 taper. i also like 300's, and prooved to myself that scenars don't work so hot on game. i never really saw the precision required for benchrest in mine, but it is not, nor was intended, a...

john, you enjoyed those 6-7 hours? wow, what kind of cigars were those? all kidding aside, im not a ballistitian, can't even spell it properly. but if the o.a.l. of the projectile is part of the formula to determine its b.c. value, then i think it is important to make that number be the same on...

on the trimmers the hoover is by far my favorite. the fact that it indexes off the ogive, holds the bullet secure, and gives real accurate o.a.l.'s are among the reasons. i like the hoover tipping tool also. the main reason IS because it is bullet specific, and does a real nice clean job. i...

not a problem, i just want to make sure he feels welcome to call any of us really. i still have'nt figured out how one gets elevted to something without running?hahaha tom

my home number is on the website jay posted, or call my cell at 406-450-0917 tom m

jd, have you cronied 31.7 of h4895 in the same rifle? and would you have called it hot also? just curious, i thought i seen on 6mmbr this stuff was going to fall between h4895 and rl15. and of course walking into a store and seeing a pound to try is likely not going to happen up here in the...

what we do here in montana at our championship shoot is this. we draw and shoot light gun and heavy gun saturday. if you win your relay both group and score you get a 1 and a 1 for a sum of 2. if you get second for both it's a 2 and 2 for a sum of 4 and so on. we then redraw for sunday and do it...

brian, i think it is a lot to lot thing. we have a lot of the "hunting" ones here that are short enough to change back to a shorter freebore. i have no idea what causes it, but it shows up in the base to ogive measurement. they shoot really good though, so i guess we switch reamers untill they...

it does work, the best i can tell. i gave johns sorting methods a try. since he has acomplished a few things in the sport, i thought i might as well try it. i would say the loose high/low shots are reduced. it will take thousands more rounds down the range, and may never know anything...

tickets are 20.00 each and contact me. my cell i spose is best 406-450-0917. thanks, tom