Is this a viable thing to do or am I wizzin in the wind.
The 30BR is excellent at 300 yards
(is that simple enough?)
Dick
Just had to chime in, hands down the 30BR will and have done well in the 300yd matches, have won a couple my self. When I started shooting the 30BR people asked how many times do you have to skip the bullet to get to 300 yds. Have went through the 30BR grave yard signs and the 30BR loading room on the head door, but my how time changes things!!!!
HUMBLE HENRY
Yes, those signs. Weren't they a hoot! ".30BR Graveyard" at the entrance to Thurmont range about 7-8 years ago, then ".30BR Loading Room" on the outhouse at the Nationals at Mainville, PA. Took wuppin up on them before they got the message. Now they are wuppin up on us! --Greg
I've still got that Mainville 'out-house sign' ! Al Nyhus and I were the last people to leave the range, and it was still hanging on the O-H door, so, I helped myself to the souvenier . . . as Paul Harvey. "and now, you know the rest of the story!"
Oh, on topic, the frist time I shot my Ronnie Long smithed/Morrison barreled 30 BR during a 300 Yd. (group) match, it made for a third place finish, which pulled me up, three or, four places to third place in the Grand Agg (100/200/300) too. That seems a LONG time ago - it was at prairie Dog Traget Club, Porcupine, SD, a.k.a. 'Deckerts' . . . about 1999 - we didn't have any VfS events out here back then.
Yep, prior to the 30 BR hammering some downright respectable groups, the PPC toters were really laughing and wondering if I was any good at, "skipping them in there?" !! All good natured ribbing of course, but THAT's what makes memories!
And, then, everyone either forgets, or, simply 'writes-off' Hal Drakes IBS Long Range (200/300) NATIONAL (group) CHAMPIONSHIP VICTORY, using a thirty . . . and that Dean Breeden, also shootin' a thirty Cal., finished second at that event! Wasn't THAT just last year??? RG
Somewhere I have a pic of that. Probably on a crashed hard drive. The "graveyard" sign at Thrumont(Bud Pryor) I refered to was an expression of the prevailing opinion at the time regarding the vaunted PPC and the lowly 30BR punkin roller. That opinion, at the time, was as American as apple pie...if you know what I mean? That particular year Dennis Collins won it with a PPC at 750 and something. The next 3 or four places were 30BR though. About 10 years ago when I converted my PPC to a 30BR a bunch of us met at a restaurant one day for lunch in the winter time. I had a dummy loaded round with me. Two guys asked me what I was going to shoot beyone 100 yards ! --Greg
ps just got my hunter gun back from Gary with new chamber based on my Henriksen reamer(.30x6.5x47 Laupa). You speak with Hugh regarding dimensions of the case body? That reamer by the way, specked out at no more than +.0002 variation on any critical dimension. Most were spot on. He can make some of the best imho! Hope I can do it justice!!!
Greg, I received a 30x47 Lapua reamer from Hugh about 18 months ago - haven't cut a chamber with it yet, as I had just chambered a couple of barrels, using my original Dan Green (Forgreen's Reamers) 30x47 HBR reamer before the Henriksen reamer arrived . . and I've been too busy to wear those two out! And, this summer, I've been messing with a 25x47 LAPUA, for which Hugh also made the reamer. Essentially, the 6.5x47 LAPUA case is a clone of the 30x47 HBR, I believe, the brain child of Guy Chism, Danny Jarvais, and Larry Smart, way back about 1986/7 - HUNTER competitors have been on point for a LONG time!
The only significant differences between the Forgreen's 30x47 HBR and the 'new' 30x47 Lapua are the web diameters, and the neck-lengths, thus OALs: following necking-up, to thirty caliber, the Lapua case is closer 46MM in length.
The bolt-face to shoulder DATUM dimensions are within 0.001", and, both feature 30 Deg. shoulder angles. The only REAL difference is that the Lapua brass is already "made" - just neck it up, trim, turn to the desired neck-wall thickeness and go shootin'!
Oh, and my original reamer was compatable with either .308 Rem. UBR or, Winchester .300 Savage brass - that is, the chamber diameter, at 0.200" ahead of the bolt-face, is .267" (these cases usually mic .0.4635-0.4640" just above the extractor-groove), as opposed to the .4715" on my Henriksen reamer, which will be compatible with the larger diameter LAPUA brass; my virgin [LAPUA] brass measures 0.469" just above the extractor-groove.
And the small primers work GREAT - they've never failed to deliver - ya just have to make a big enough port for the FIRE to get through! RG