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"With that cold of temperatures, at what point would you start to be concerned about the stocks glued in action?
BUTCH"
I think it depends on the stock and the type of epoxy. I've had them come out by letting them sit in a hot car for a while. Compare that with the HV BAT/Scoville that I usually shoot at WWCCA in the Winter. I've been trying to get the action out of that stock for about four years now. I glued it in with JB Weld. I'm afraid of separating the balsa and carbon fiber so I gave up on it. That HV stock belongs to George Carter and I've tried heating the action after letting it sit outside in the bitter cold for a long while. It just wants to stay in that stock. I think the bedding is okay; It's shot 19X's at 200 yards and stays clean at 200 yards most of the time. When it falls out of that stock from old age, I'll give it back to George.
Once at Phoenix Kenny Hottenstein's action came out of the stock on Friday afternoon before the match started. This time I think it had something to do with the heat. We drove to Lowe's and bought some JB Weld and glued it back in. Kenny finished in the top ten with the thing. It was kind of funny; when the action came out and we borrowed Lou Murdica's hand grinder to rough up the bottom of the thing, everybody kind of vacated the area. Later, when we started the gluing process, we had an audience of advisors.
As Gammon mentioned, I was with Tony in South Africa in 2009 when his action came out of its stock. The US Team's guns flew over in the hold of plane on the trans-Atlantic flight and I remember seeing the outside temperature listed on the info screen at -40 F when we were above 35,000 feet. Not sure how cold the hold got, but Tony was complaining that his gun wasn't shooting and the bedding was the culprit.
I think you just need to test them to see if they move. Pull between the barrel and the fore-end. If it moves (a general term - "move" could mean the action pops out of the stock), it's probably loose. Some guys pinch the barrel and fore-end together and measure to see if the tang at the rear of the action lifts slightly out of the stock. May not be a bad thing to re-bed and re-glue every couple of years.
PS If you decide to "test" the stock, it may be a good thing to do so at least two days before you want to shoot it; and you may want to have some Devcon, MarineTex or JB Weld around before you start the procedure.
"With that cold of temperatures, at what point would you start to be concerned about the stocks glued in action?
BUTCH"
I think it depends on the stock and the type of epoxy. I've had them come out by letting them sit in a hot car for a while. Compare that with the HV BAT/Scoville that I usually shoot at WWCCA in the Winter. I've been trying to get the action out of that stock for about four years now. I glued it in with JB Weld. I'm afraid of separating the balsa and carbon fiber so I gave up on it. That HV stock belongs to George Carter and I've tried heating the action after letting it sit outside in the bitter cold for a long while. It just wants to stay in that stock. I think the bedding is okay; It's shot 19X's at 200 yards and stays clean at 200 yards most of the time. When it falls out of that stock from old age, I'll give it back to George.
Once at Phoenix Kenny Hottenstein's action came out of the stock on Friday afternoon before the match started. This time I think it had something to do with the heat. We drove to Lowe's and bought some JB Weld and glued it back in. Kenny finished in the top ten with the thing. It was kind of funny; when the action came out and we borrowed Lou Murdica's hand grinder to rough up the bottom of the thing, everybody kind of vacated the area. Later, when we started the gluing process, we had an audience of advisors.
As Gammon mentioned, I was with Tony in South Africa in 2009 when his action came out of its stock. The US Team's guns flew over in the hold of plane on the trans-Atlantic flight and I remember seeing the outside temperature listed on the info screen at -40 F when we were above 35,000 feet. Not sure how cold the hold got, but Tony was complaining that his gun wasn't shooting and the bedding was the culprit.
I think you just need to test them to see if they move. Pull between the barrel and the fore-end. If it moves (a general term - "move" could mean the action pops out of the stock), it's probably loose. Some guys pinch the barrel and fore-end together and measure to see if the tang at the rear of the action lifts slightly out of the stock. May not be a bad thing to re-bed and re-glue every couple of years.
PS If you decide to "test" the stock, it may be a good thing to do so at least two days before you want to shoot it; and you may want to have some Devcon, MarineTex or JB Weld around before you start the procedure.
