what is everyone using for a caliber

[Cheechako]

The 180 VLD has a higher BC than the 6mm bullets. If you can shoot the 6mmBR at a high enough velocity to overcome the VLD advantage of the 180 they would be just as good. But that's hard to do in the little BR case without pounding the brass. But, again, the 6mm BR has won a lot of fake wood at both 600 and 1000 yards.

JMHO

Ray

 

[Dick Grosbier]

Interesting. I thought that the 6BR was more of a 500-600 yard cartridge. What exactly would the disadvantage be to shooting a 280 Rem with 180 VLDs at 1000 yards, over the 6BR? Just trying to get an idea of how you bench shooters think about your cartridge choices.

Thanks

I probably should have expanded on what I said , the 6BR or one of its derivatives the dasher etc.

Dick

 

[jackie schmidt]

Dusty

You said it. New shooters should simply go with a proven concept and learn the game. They will have plenty of time later to get "creative" and fill closets full of "ideas" that looked good on paper,but turned out to be of little worth in the real world of Competition.

The Frozen Scope thing?? While most know that I now have 50x Marches on my three bag guns, the Frozen Scope concept served me quite well in the three-four years when we were plagued with unreliable offerrings that no one seemed to have an answer for.

And tuners?? I am not about to take mine off. But, if everyone I compete against wishes to, that will not hurt my feelings one bit.

These are different solutions to solving the same problem. But, as you said, new shooters need to keep it simple, as this game can get overcomplicated, overwhelming, in short time.........jackie

 

[Chisolm]

Interesting. I thought that the 6BR was more of a 500-600 yard cartridge. What exactly would the disadvantage be to shooting a 280 Rem with 180 VLDs at 1000 yards, over the 6BR? Just trying to get an idea of how you bench shooters think about your cartridge choices.

Thanks

The 6BR, BRX and Dasher are just hard to beat at 600 yards and when conditions are consistant they are tough to beat at 1000 yards. The only time the larger calibers with the higher BCs have an advantage is when conditions are not as readable.
I shot a 7mm SAUM this past season shooting 162 Amax bulllets and did very well with it at 1000 but not as good at 600 so I built a 6mm Creedmoor to try at 600, waiting on brass now to do some load development. If it shoots as good as it should I probably will also try it at 1000 when conditions aren't too nasty.
I believe the main advantage of the 6mm over the 7mm is that it disturbs the rifle in the bags less during recoil. It may also stay in tune better.
According to the equipmant list the top shooters at the 1000yd NBRSA Nationals this year were shooting a 6mm Dasher.


James

 

[alinwa]

Interesting. I thought that the 6BR was more of a 500-600 yard cartridge. What exactly would the disadvantage be to shooting a 280 Rem with 180 VLDs at 1000 yards, over the 6BR? Just trying to get an idea of how you bench shooters think about your cartridge choices.

Thanks

ok,

It's all about quality bullets.

Bullets, bullets and bullets in no particular order.

For pure intrinsic accuracy it comes down to bullet jacket quality.

Accuracywise you're best served by 30cal, 6MM and .22 for the small stuff.

When someone makes accurate .280 bullets, MAYBE it'll rise up....

Go with what works and with proven bullet components.

Nothing wrong with experiementing BUT....

Experiment w/proven bullets.

al

 

[goodgrouper]

Interesting. I thought that the 6BR was more of a 500-600 yard cartridge. What exactly would the disadvantage be to shooting a 280 Rem with 180 VLDs at 1000 yards, over the 6BR? Just trying to get an idea of how you bench shooters think about your cartridge choices.

Thanks

The 6br works well at 1000 yards. It is very accurate. And it recoils less too!

 

[Mike Bryant]

Could anyone offer advice on post #13?

Thanks

Instead of using a .280 Remington, I'd suggest using a .284 Win. Lapua brass is available in 6.5/284 and can easily be necked up to 7mm. Better brass and a shorter powder column should make a better shooting cartridge than the .280 Remington and also better barrel life than the 6.5/284. I've only built a couple of .284 Win for f-class shooters and they've been well satisfied with the cartridge. If you go .284 Win., make sure that your gunsmiths reamer is setup for Lapua brass as there is a difference in diameters at the base, with Winchester brass being several thousandths smaller in diameter than Lapua brass.