what is everyone using for a caliber

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Hi everyone.Im looking into getting to 100 yard br shooting an just wondering what would be a good caliber to use.I have done some 600yrd shooting but the caliber i have i think is to much over kill for 100 yrd(30-378 mag).Some of the the people that ive talked to say the 6mm ppc but im not to crazy about a small 6mm bullet in windy conditions so i guees that id like to stick with the trusty 30 cal bullet with a good b.c,but is there anything out there that might be as good or better than the 30.I guees that i dont realy want to spend the same amount of cash either that i have in my 600yrd rifle either so maybe someone out there can point me in the direction of a good used rifle thats not shot out to.Thanks for everyones help.
 
6-PPC for Group

or

30 BR for score

thats what the winners are shooting about 99+ % of the time.

If you wanna try to reinvent the wheel go too it.
 
I would have to say shooting an entire agg with that 30-378 would be a trying experience. That's (25) record shots plus sighters. The 6 PPC would be a much better choice if you shoot groups and the .30BR if you shoot score. Click on the IBS/NBRSA icons on the homepage to view the rules
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Mike Swartz
 
Mike

Out here in AZ we shoot the 30-378 in LV Class.;)

Tate

Do what these guys say. Get a 6PPC or 30BR. If you do any amount of point-blank shooting you will get one eventually so save all the time and trouble.

If you think you may also do some 600 yard BR, you could consider a 6mm BR as a first rifle. It will serve both short and long range but you'll eventually want two rifles and one of them will be a 6PPC or a 30BR.

JMHO

Ray
 
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30-378

About how many rounds of 6ppc could be filled with powder from one 30-378 cartridge case. 3 to 1, 4 to 1. RANDY
 
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You might want to look into the 6mm BR norma or 6.5 X 284 (both surprising wind buckers, to some) if you think you still might be shooting at that 600 yard range much. If you want to stand a chance of winning in real competition at the shorter ranges, lke everyone says get the 6ppc. If you like to experiment and have a perverse streak, like I do, get a 6 BR rem and play with barrels and loads a lot........keeps me off the streets.....
 
Tate,

Get yourself a custom, single shot action with a standard (.473") bolt face and glue it into a high quality stock. Then get two barrels, both 6mm, one in a 14" twist and the other an 8" twist. Chamber the 8" twist for a 6br norma with a reamer made for Lapua brass and shoot 95 or 105 grain VLD bullets. These will scratch your 600 yard itch very nicely.

The other barrel, chamber for a 6 ppc also made for Lapua brass (220 russian) and shoot custom made 66 or 68 grain bullets. This will be competitive for 100 thru 300 yard group benchrest.

Then just get a barrel vise and action wrench and you can switch these two barrels out in about 3 minutes flat. One gun, two barrels, two sports.
 
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tate said:
Hi everyone.Im looking into getting to 100 yard br shooting an just wondering what would be a good caliber to use.I have done some 600yrd shooting but the caliber i have i think is to much over kill for 100 yrd(30-378 mag).Some of the the people that ive talked to say the 6mm ppc but im not to crazy about a small 6mm bullet in windy conditions so i guees that id like to stick with the trusty 30 cal bullet with a good b.c,but is there anything out there that might be as good or better than the 30.I guees that i dont realy want to spend the same amount of cash either that i have in my 600yrd rifle either so maybe someone out there can point me in the direction of a good used rifle thats not shot out to.Thanks for everyones help.
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competitive benchrest shooting then follow Dick's advice. Since I see you are in Maine, be aware that there is no group benchrest here. We shoot IBS Score matches...and that is not a 6 PPC game. --Greg
 
why isn't it a 6ppc game? it has been done for as many years as folks have been chambering for it. when you get a gun that shoots good it could be a 17cal and win a score match. with a .30 all you gotta do is get a 1/4" group to get a 250- what's the fun or challenge in that?:D
 
Dusty Stevens said:
why isn't it a 6ppc game? it has been done for as many years as folks have been chambering for it. when you get a gun that shoots good it could be a 17cal and win a score match. with a .30 all you gotta do is get a 1/4" group to get a 250- what's the fun or challenge in that?:D
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A 6 mm or a 17 can win but the 30BR gives up nothing in accuracy and punches a bigger hole, a bigger hole is a big advantage in shooting score.
 
I am currently beginning a new benchrest rifle for personal grouping at 500-1000 yards. Maybe someday if I develop proficiency I will attempt competition.

I live in an area where it is often somewhat windy.

I was curious, what do you guys think about the 280 Remington for these tasks?

I know that the 6.5x284 is a common choice, but this will be a somewhat heavy rifle, and the 7mm 180gr bullets sounded appealing.
 
Right!

Dusty Stevens said:
why isn't it a 6ppc game? it has been done for as many years as folks have been chambering for it. when you get a gun that shoots good it could be a 17cal and win a score match. with a .30 all you gotta do is get a 1/4" group to get a 250- what's the fun or challenge in that?:D
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Try it sometime. There is no "Agging IN" in Score. The frst shot isn't a freebee, you gotta hit the dot EVERY TIME. ;)
 
you know I figured after the 30s became more popular a few years ago and listening to all the hype that all the records would be SHATTERED... but they haven't:confused: sounds like the kool-aid that surrounds locked up scopes, tuners and the other gimmicks folks think they must have to start shooting. why doesn't very many folks shoot the 30br in group shoots? a new shooter don't need 5 guns, a locked up scope, and a tuna on his barrel to get started but that's the way it looks to be if you really get down and read on here
 
Dusty...

Dusty Stevens said:
you know I figured after the 30s became more popular a few years ago and listening to all the hype that all the records would be SHATTERED... but they haven't:confused: sounds like the kool-aid that surrounds locked up scopes, tuners and the other gimmicks folks think they must have to start shooting. why doesn't very many folks shoot the 30br in group shoots? a new shooter don't need 5 guns, a locked up scope, and a tuna on his barrel to get started but that's the way it looks to be if you really get down and read on here
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the 30 cal is a score cartridge. When most of us talk about it we are talking score. I'm not sure why so many try to indict the caliber and force it into group where it shows no distinctive advantage. Some do shoot it in group and there have been some successes with it in big matches on the East Coast. Check the IBS Group match results for the last few years.

In the score game, it has shattered records...the 100/200 agg was re-set in 2005 and then again in 2008. The light gun 100/200 agg was set a year ago. The 200 yard 250-16X record was re-set by Allie Euber a year ago, and the 100 yard record of wipeouts was topped by Al Weaver a couple of years ago. I would class that as shattering, but that's just me.

If you're just funnin' us, we always can use a laugh. If you are not, you don't know what you are talking about. Good luck. --Greg
 
stephen perry and dusty stevens, ya'll shoot group or score??

the wind is my friend,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

DD
 
Dick Grosbier said:
6BR with 8 or 9 twist barrel for shooting heavy VLD bullets.
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Interesting. I thought that the 6BR was more of a 500-600 yard cartridge. What exactly would the disadvantage be to shooting a 280 Rem with 180 VLDs at 1000 yards, over the 6BR? Just trying to get an idea of how you bench shooters think about your cartridge choices.

Thanks
 
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