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savet06

Mike Suhie
I had the opportunity, nay, the pleasure to shoot a Scoville stocked PPC this past weekend and the immediate traits that jumped out (aside from the aesthetics) were the tracking and the lack of perceived recoil of the shot. I felt as though I were shooting an instrument of accuracy and, unfortunately for my wife/wallet I wanted one bad...this also was followed by the thought that I would like to try a seb neo and then I remembered how deeply I loved my wife and family and would like to stay with them for as long as possible. The two thoughts could not exist in the same space and thus one must be rejected... Sorry, kids. Daddy needs a new front rest! I kid, of course...
Having shot more score competitions I have been more accustomed to the 30br over the last 3 years and I wondered if the same characteristics that were so elegantly evident in the ppc carried over to the 30br with the Scoville design used in 13.5lb configuration.
Anyone have any thoughts?
Mike
 
I have a few .30 BR barrels that fit on my HV BAT/Scoville. And I also have 13 1/2 lb Panda in a Kelbly Klub in .30 BR. My HV Teddy was in a Adamowich slock (kevlar fore-runner of the Klub) and I had a .30 BR barrel on that rifle also.

My experience is that the .30 BR is a bit more "robust" than the PPC in any of those stocks. The Scoville stock immediately handled better for me in the 10 1/2 pound PPC than any other stock. But, I have seen very little difference between those three stocks in the 13 1/2 lb form shooting either the PPC or the .30 BR.

I have not triied to shoot a 10 1/2 lb .30 BR in any stock, but I could see that being a real adventure.
 
I had one. It was a Hall B in a Scovill stock; beutiful thing. I found that it bit me a lot more than I liked so I sold it. If it were me, I would be -a-lookin for a Robertson stock, like the one I have now. Don't matter much about the action but the Rimrock I have in the Robertson is a very good choice and I have had a quite a few or em; 30 BR 13.5 rifles, that is. I found the narrow and thin butt on the Sovill focused the recoil ; which, if one thinks about it, smaller = more felt recoil.

They are works of Art, no question but for my taste, not designed for a lot of Boom.
 
savet06 said:
Having shot more score competitions I have been more accustomed to the 30br over the last 3 years and I wondered if the same characteristics that were so elegantly evident in the ppc carried over to the 30br with the Scoville design used in 13.5lb configuration.
Anyone have any thoughts?
Mike
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If you think Scoville tracks well you shoud try a Leonard. Thats why I have 4 leonards.
 
Thanks for all the replies. My friend who owns the PPC may put on a 30br barrel and get a weight system for it so I may be able to shoot one first hand just don't know when that might be.
I have long had my eye on a Leonard and would really like to sit behind one and see how she rides. Decisions, decisions. I will also look at the Robertson's more closely. I have seen a fair number of them at matches, but never had a chance to get behind one.
Thanks again,
Mike
 
Mike,
While you're deciding on which stock & waiting for it to be delivered, why don't you just try a PPC barrel on your current BAT? I think it's the lower recoil that makes a biggest difference. Years ago I remember trying a full 308 Win HV (friends rifle) that was a real beast to shoot.
Ron
 
I may just do that, Ron. And thanks, again, for adding another "need to have" to my list! All I need is more stuff and more winter thoughts to obsess about.
Mike
 
No problem, Mike.
Just trying to keep the economy going. I love spending "other peoples money"!
If you think this is expensive, those crazy trap shooters will spend $10K on a new gun and then want it restocked!
Ron
 
I have shot a couple of my 30BR barrels on my 13.5 pound scoville stock and i felt there was more felt recoil than it needed to have. I also agree with Pete, in that the Robertson stock is the best choice for the 30BR. The felt recoil on my robertson stocked 30BR is so much better compared to the scoville. Night and day difference. To bad the Robertson stocks arent available any longer. I did hear that there wasa fella making some but i dont know if there is any truth to that. Its a dam shame, as those robertson stocks offered a real value. I love them!!!! Lee

Is there anyone making them now? How is that coming along if so? Lee
 
savet06 said:
Having shot more score competitions I have been more accustomed to the 30br over the last 3 years and I wondered if the same characteristics that were so elegantly evident in the ppc carried over to the 30br with the Scoville design used in 13.5lb configuration.
Anyone have any thoughts?
Mike
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Mike, if you want to try a more budget friendly stock of that style take a look at the new Kelbly KLP. Here's a link to it: http://www.kelbly.com/stocks.html
I've got one and it tracks extremely well. One thing I would say is make sure that style of butt (short from top to keel) works well for you on a Score target, versus the more limited side-to-side movement that a Group target requires. Also, there's simply no combination of stock design/bullet weight/jacket length/twist rate/etc. that will make a 30BR/30PPC/30 Whatever behave like a PPC....whether we're talking about a 10.5 or 13.5 version. Here's a pic or two so you get a better idea of what a Kelbly KLP looks likes. The gun is my 10.5 lb. Panda in 30BR:

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Good shootin'. :) -Al
 
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Joe Krupa said:
I have not triied to shoot a 10 1/2 lb .30 BR in any stock, but I could see that being a real adventure.
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Joe, I've got two 10.5 lb. 30BR's (Panda and an RFD) plus a 13.5 lb. 30BR (Panda). Honestly, the 10.5'er's aren't a lot different from the 13.5 gun. But compared to a nice tracking 10.5 PPC they're just worlds apart. Probably the best way I could relate is to say that a great tracking, poochy loaded 13.5 30BR with .925 jacketed 112-ish bullets twisted 17-20 isn't too far off from a stoked up (3400-ish) 10.5 PPC that tracks like dog doo. ;) :D

I owned this beautiful 10.5 Tony Larson stocked 6PPC and did a lot of work with it last season....a true pleasure to shoot. I remember thinking to myself the first time I had it out that it's no wonder that dedicated 6PPC shooters find making the jump to a .30 (any .30) somewhat objectionable.

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Good shootin'. :) -Al
 
Al,
Your last statement was exactly what I felt like when I shot a PPC for the first time. I felt more like an artist painting a group with the PPC compared to driving them in with a sledgehammer (albeit a highly refined, precision sledgehammer). Don't get me wrong, I love my 30br but the PPC felt like a dream to a guy who's been kissed by a scope or two from the 30br (I have since remedied that problem, but the memories die hard).
Thanks for the input and I will be weighing my choices this winter. Hopefully post pics when I get it all figured (AAA maybe?) out.
 
Pat, it came inletted as a RB/RP from Kelblys. I changed the port side cutout for a RB/LP action, opened the trigger guard area, and did the pillars. It's a bolt in with a lug dovetailed in the bottom of the action just behind the reciever face. The outside hasn't been finished at all. I need to get the butt shortened a bit yet. Then maybe a wrap this Winter or some just some wet sanding.

Good shootin'. -Al
 
Thanks Al..

Now that I look closer at the rifle I can see the stocks exterior is unfinished.. I have finished maybe a dozen of the Six type stocks and didn't find it to be an enjoyable project..
 
What everyones opinion on the Mini-Draco for long range duck hunting?
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