Sleeved action removal
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Mike Bryant
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Tommy, I'd heat it up and break the epoxy bond and press it out. If you put it in an oven at about 300 degrees for an hour that should do it. I've removed 700's for sleeves, but it's been so long ago that I don't remember exactly how I did it. Heating the receiver to 300 degrees won't have any effect on the temper of the action as it's below any tempering temperatures.
Wayne Shaw
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The Dorsey's were big into sleeved Remington's years ago. I had one I wanted to get off, so I emailed Paul I believe, and he said to,out an old barrel on the action, strip everything of course off the action, then heat the sleeve. I forget what I used, probably a propane torch and danced it around. Dorsey said to heat the sleeve and once hot, start slamming the barrel on a piece of wood on a concrete floor. I think I head the hot sleeve with welding gloves to put for on it. He stressed they were stubborn, and it was. Keep the heat on. Messy to clean up too. But that did keep the heat off the action.
David Halblom
Flying Fish Fundamentals
The oven process
makes a lot more sense. 300 degrees is no where near enough temp to hurt any metal tempers, but it will break down any epoxy bond after 1 hour. heat the action and sleeve, screw on a barrel stub and strike it out. Would be my process.
David
makes a lot more sense. 300 degrees is no where near enough temp to hurt any metal tempers, but it will break down any epoxy bond after 1 hour. heat the action and sleeve, screw on a barrel stub and strike it out. Would be my process.
David
How accurate is your oven?
Gene Beggs
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Why?
I've followed this thread daily with increasing interest and the question that always comes to mind is; why?
Why would you want to go to so much trouble to remove an aluminum sleeve from a Remington action? Do you wish to salvage the action? Sleeve? Both?
Why not just use it as is or give it to someone and start with a new custom action?
Just curious. Maybe I'm missing something.
Gene Beggs
I've followed this thread daily with increasing interest and the question that always comes to mind is; why?
Why would you want to go to so much trouble to remove an aluminum sleeve from a Remington action? Do you wish to salvage the action? Sleeve? Both?
Why not just use it as is or give it to someone and start with a new custom action?
Just curious. Maybe I'm missing something.
Gene Beggs
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Mike Bryant
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Most times when a sleeve is removed the action will have been roughed up to get a good epoxy adhesion to the sleeve. It's going to take a lot of work to reuse the action for something else if you're not going to reglue it back into the sleeve.
My oven is accurate to plus or minus 100 degrees.
Thing is, this is HFV and if he decides to take off the sleeve....he's gonna take off the sleeve. Damn the torpedoes!!!
Wayne Shaw
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I removed mine because the action slipped in the sleeve. Still hard to get off though.
Mike Bryant
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My oven is accurate to plus or minus 100 degrees.
Thing is, this is HFV and if he decides to take off the sleeve....he's gonna take off the sleeve. Damn the torpedoes!!!
I use a Paragon heat treating oven. The only time I have trouble with it going over the temperature is if I have it raising the temperature too fast. Several years ago a local machine shop went out of business where my benchrest shooting buddy, Joe Archer, had worked. They had a 3 ton arbor press that I was able to pick up for $125. This thing is similar to the arbor presses that we use for seating bullets, but on a very heavy dose of steroids. It stands on it's own pedestal and is about 5 foot to the top of the arbor press with eleven inches of throat under the ram. That thing was the best investment that I've ever made at an auction. We used to use it when it was in the machine shop to full length size our PPC cases with one of the Wilson full length hand size dies. That thing gets used a lot.
Gene,, this is the story.
I can get the action, and enough gold to do what I want to do. (w/trade). I have a stock,,w/sendero size barrel inlet. Stock is for an XP,, from McMillan, sitting waiting for a rescue and a chance to work for someone. I have access to bead blaster and some free hot bluing. Last but not least ,, I don't like bulky sleeve actions, and don't believe a sleeve is an accuracy advantage,, (other than bedding area). And using the sleeve would cause me to have stock re-inletted, and possible damage the integrity of the stock. That said,, thank you for your advice and input , plus all others that have responded to my thread.. Good shooting I also have a new .224 barrel crying to hook up w/an action.
A friend and I were contemplating a trade. He has the sleeved action. I would like to have another accurate .222 or .222 Revenge (hunting type rifle)I've followed this thread daily with increasing interest and the question that always comes to mind is; why?
Why would you want to go to so much trouble to remove an aluminum sleeve from a Remington action? Do you wish to salvage the action? Sleeve? Both?
Why not just use it as is or give it to someone and start with a new custom action?
Just curious. Maybe I'm missing something.
Gene Beggs
I can get the action, and enough gold to do what I want to do. (w/trade). I have a stock,,w/sendero size barrel inlet. Stock is for an XP,, from McMillan, sitting waiting for a rescue and a chance to work for someone. I have access to bead blaster and some free hot bluing. Last but not least ,, I don't like bulky sleeve actions, and don't believe a sleeve is an accuracy advantage,, (other than bedding area). And using the sleeve would cause me to have stock re-inletted, and possible damage the integrity of the stock. That said,, thank you for your advice and input , plus all others that have responded to my thread.. Good shooting I also have a new .224 barrel crying to hook up w/an action.
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MilGunsmith
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If you don't want to save the sleeve, put the receiver on a mandrel between centers on a lathe and turn most of it off. Then heat with heat gun and peal the remainder.
Thanks
I think the oven heating will do it.. I just wanted to hear it from others. I have removed some glued in actions w/ iron.. I agree , 300 degrees shouldn't have any effect on the action .
Thanks to all for input. Great people on this forum.
I think the oven heating will do it.. I just wanted to hear it from others. I have removed some glued in actions w/ iron.. I agree , 300 degrees shouldn't have any effect on the action .
Thanks to all for input. Great people on this forum.
Not for Comp
Gene , you are correct,, why remove sleeve? I wouldn't want to remove if the rifle was gonna be used for any type competition. It will be just a varmint type rifle, aka fun rifle. Plan to have dark matte finish and 22"-23" barrel.. Just to go into the swamp on one of our get togethers , have fun shoot targets, cook ,, eat , spend time w/friends..
Thanks again for input. HFV
I've followed this thread daily with increasing interest and the question that always comes to mind is; why?
Why would you want to go to so much trouble to remove an aluminum sleeve from a Remington action? Do you wish to salvage the action? Sleeve? Both?
Why not just use it as is or give it to someone and start with a new custom action?
Just curious. Maybe I'm missing something.
Gene Beggs
Gene , you are correct,, why remove sleeve? I wouldn't want to remove if the rifle was gonna be used for any type competition. It will be just a varmint type rifle, aka fun rifle. Plan to have dark matte finish and 22"-23" barrel.. Just to go into the swamp on one of our get togethers , have fun shoot targets, cook ,, eat , spend time w/friends..
Thanks again for input. HFV