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shooter65
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Jut bought a 6.5x47L and will be using it at a fixed 600 and 1000 yard matches. What scope would be ideal for this?
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B. Harvey
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March 10-60X
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okbob51
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Nf 8-32 br
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shooter65
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If the gun will be strictly a bench gun, then I think you would be better seved with a higher power variable....like a 12- 42 NF, 10-60 march, ect.....
I have an 8.5-25 Leupold, an 8 - 32 NF, and a couple of 12-42 NF. I definatly like the 12-42 for 1K. I also use it for 300 - 600 F class.
If I could afford one, I would have the 10 - 60 March on my LG....about 10 oz. lighter than the NF.
Just my .02.
Tod
I have an 8.5-25 Leupold, an 8 - 32 NF, and a couple of 12-42 NF. I definatly like the 12-42 for 1K. I also use it for 300 - 600 F class.
If I could afford one, I would have the 10 - 60 March on my LG....about 10 oz. lighter than the NF.
Just my .02.
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I got my NF scopes from D & B (Bill Shehane). I have several reticals......none stand out as better or worse......I am not picky when it comes to reticals, unless they are to thick/thin/big/small.
As far as price...I would rather spend a little more and support someone in our sport as opposed to some big chain store. That is just me......use your own judgement.
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Larry Willis
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Tod .....
How would you rate the Leupold MK4 8.5-25x50 as a 1,000 yard tactical scope? I'm getting close to ordering one. Any suggestions?
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How would you rate the Leupold MK4 8.5-25x50 as a 1,000 yard tactical scope? I'm getting close to ordering one. Any suggestions?
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Gary L Noble
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shooter65
The late Skip Talbot would always say to me,"Gary are you still using those ---Lepoulds."
I finally listen to him. After I drove 1300 miles for a shoot, and the erector assembly fell out of the 8.5X25.
Been using Night force ever since. Many miles and shoots later no problems.
The late Skip Talbot would always say to me,"Gary are you still using those ---Lepoulds."
I finally listen to him. After I drove 1300 miles for a shoot, and the erector assembly fell out of the 8.5X25.
Been using Night force ever since. Many miles and shoots later no problems.
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Jeff in OH
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tenring
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NF prices
I have searched everywhere for good price on NF scopes. You will find that the prices are very close no matter the dealer. That is because NF closely monitors the prices, and they have very strict rules. There was one well known shooting house that advertises here and two years ago, they secretly deeply discounted NF's. If you spoke with the owner personally, he would give you a great price. NF got wind of it and increased his wholesale price about 20% as penalty.
I have searched everywhere for good price on NF scopes. You will find that the prices are very close no matter the dealer. That is because NF closely monitors the prices, and they have very strict rules. There was one well known shooting house that advertises here and two years ago, they secretly deeply discounted NF's. If you spoke with the owner personally, he would give you a great price. NF got wind of it and increased his wholesale price about 20% as penalty.
Larry,
My Leupold is not a tactical MK 4, It is a VXIII long range target. I feel that the turrets are a little wimpy on the LRT. I am pretty sure that the MK 4 turrets are more like the Nightforce NSX turrets. They use a much bigger ellen wrench and feel way more stout. I never know how tight I can turn those itty-bitty screws on the LRT. I feel that I am going to strip them before I can get them tight enough. Not so with the NSX (and probably the MK 4). You know you got the screw tight in those!!! As far as the glass in the leupold....GREAT. As far as the actual turret adjustments.....again I think I like the bigger, stiffer clicks.....no....lets call them "CLACKS"...of the NSX.....the LRT turrets click, or more like "tick" when adjusted.....just a more tinny sound - feel. The NSX is more "MANLY"!!
My guess the MK 4 is the same as the NF, but not sure. I like the 15 inch per revolution on the Leupold better than the 10 MOA on the NSX , and way more than the 6 moa on the N F BR model!!!All of my scopes are checked for trueness and repeatable adjustment.....all are very, very good in this regard.
Again, just my .02.
Tod
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shooter65
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Larry Willis
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Thanks for the info.
I have a few Leupold VX3 scopes on my hunting rifles, and I've never had any problems. Maybe I'm just lucky. However, I have noticed that the first two CCW clicks don't usually move the crosshairs. This is common on most scopes, but not on the MK4 or NF scopes. I'm getting started with informal 1,000 yard competition, and the adjustments need to be 100% accurate.
Does anyone out there have experience using the Leupold MK4 LRT 8.5-25x50 ?
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I have a few Leupold VX3 scopes on my hunting rifles, and I've never had any problems. Maybe I'm just lucky. However, I have noticed that the first two CCW clicks don't usually move the crosshairs. This is common on most scopes, but not on the MK4 or NF scopes. I'm getting started with informal 1,000 yard competition, and the adjustments need to be 100% accurate.
Does anyone out there have experience using the Leupold MK4 LRT 8.5-25x50 ?
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El Paso Mark
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Greetings all. Have you guys ever considered the new IOR Valdada 36X benchrest scope? At about $1035.00 it's less than that NF and has more power. And if the optics are like what I have in my IOR 4-14 they're as good or better than a NF.
Cheers,
Mark
Cheers,
Mark
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mike in co
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but a fixed power scope can be a handful if the mirage picks up and you cannot power down.....
just a maybe for a long range gun...
mike in co
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El Paso Mark
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Just curious...............to all you 1 K shooters...........Think back.........how many times have you had to power down your variable because of...well .............for any reason? Or, to you guys who shoot a fixed power scope.........how many times did you not get to shoot, or, your shooting suffered because of to much scope for, again.....any reason? Are there some ranges that are more prone to mirage issues than others? The only time I ever needed to lower my power was in Iowa. The berm was wet and I couldn't find some of my impacts because of the recoil of the 17 lb 300 wby w/o the brake. I dialed back up when I went for record. Now, I admit, I have only been shooting 1K comp for 2 years, and have only been to Pella, T Vally, and Harris (MN) ranges. I don't see myself going anywhere else, except maybe to Pierre, SD for some 600 yard shooting. Maybe try the World Open sometime!!!
My reason for asking is that I finaly got my LG light enough to use a NF scope last year...NSX 12-42. It is as light as it is going to get unless I saw off some BBL or change contours. I really want to shoot the LG class with my 6" attachment (for my front rest) on my gun that I use on it when I shoot it in HG....It tracks so much better with less upset than without it.
I am either going back to a Leupold Variable, or maybe a fixed 35x or 40x, to shed some weight so I can use the attachment. Unless someone can tell me how to make one that weighs less than 1 oz. I will need to ditch the NF
I now have a dedicated HG, and I can use my 6" rest for both. Just change out the rear bag.
Sorry if this is kind of off topic. I guess it is somewhat pertanent to the initial question in that we are talking the variable scope vs the non variable issue.
Thanks,
Tod
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JSchopper
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Right ON
You could'nt make a better choice (March scopes included).
Usually the NF weighs more than the Leupolds, but even though I do not now own one (I did have a NF 5.5-22 on a 1000 yrd rifle) I have looked through several of these 8x32's and noticed a definite differnence (to the good) against the Leupolds.
IMHO March scopes are grossly over priced
You could'nt make a better choice (March scopes included).
Usually the NF weighs more than the Leupolds, but even though I do not now own one (I did have a NF 5.5-22 on a 1000 yrd rifle) I have looked through several of these 8x32's and noticed a definite differnence (to the good) against the Leupolds.
IMHO March scopes are grossly over priced
I shot at the South fork World groundhog shoot this year and the first day was 25+ winds, cloudy and rained cats and dogs. Visibility was about as bad is it could get for that time of year.
I shot both my 6.5x47 Lapua rifles, one with a Weaver T-36 and the other with a NF BR 12-42x56....for the life of me I couldn't tell a difference optically all the way out to 500 yds between the two.
The weaver is fixed but tracks like clockwork. I'm not saying that it's as good as the NF because I know it isn't.
My eyes are still fairly young and very good, 20/10. My point is if you have good eyes I think you can get away with a lower priced proven scope such as the Weaver. Once your eyes start to go south is where the high quality glass on the more expensive scopes pays off.
I even looked through a couple of March scopes and didn't see anything earth shattering whatsoever.
In the end, I will give up some glass for a scope that will track perfect everytime.
I will say I have had a dozen or so Weaver T-36's and some are better than others glass wise but, all have tracked like they should.
Will I buy a Weaver over the NF, not if I can afford the NF but, I sure wouldn't feel at a disadvantage with a Weaver, Leupold or sightron either.
I shot both my 6.5x47 Lapua rifles, one with a Weaver T-36 and the other with a NF BR 12-42x56....for the life of me I couldn't tell a difference optically all the way out to 500 yds between the two.
The weaver is fixed but tracks like clockwork. I'm not saying that it's as good as the NF because I know it isn't.
My eyes are still fairly young and very good, 20/10. My point is if you have good eyes I think you can get away with a lower priced proven scope such as the Weaver. Once your eyes start to go south is where the high quality glass on the more expensive scopes pays off.
I even looked through a couple of March scopes and didn't see anything earth shattering whatsoever.
In the end, I will give up some glass for a scope that will track perfect everytime.
I will say I have had a dozen or so Weaver T-36's and some are better than others glass wise but, all have tracked like they should.
Will I buy a Weaver over the NF, not if I can afford the NF but, I sure wouldn't feel at a disadvantage with a Weaver, Leupold or sightron either.