Primer Sources & Availbility

Try to look at things a little bit differently.

How many of you sold homes in the past couple years? Did you sell it for the going price or did you sell it for what it was worth before the housing market skyrocketed?
 
That's what got us in this mess to begin with.. we'll buy this over-priced house we can't afford wait 10 weeks and sell for a big profit!! till the brown stuff hit the fan. I'm just gonna keep book on all the people that abuse others for fast money. And one day I hope to get the chance to plant my size 12's in their collective ass... so to speak. And the best way to do that is give them no business at all, now or ever again.
 
Lynn said:
Tom D
Your description is classic Gouging 101.
What you probaly meant to say was the gas stations and also the stores selling primers should have put a cap on the amount that could be purchased without raising the price at all.You can buy 10 gallons or you can buy 1,000 primers per visit or per person.

Doubling the price on any product you already posess do to a natural disaster or shortage is text book Gouging.
Lynn
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I disagree. Look at it in a different context.

Say there is a Cat 5 hurricane boring into the Gulf coast, everyone is clearing out. There is a motel inland a hundred and some miles inland that is experiencing very heavy demand. Lets look at the effect of anti-gouging laws.

Two days in advance of the storm, here comes a Ford Explorer piled high with mom and dad, 3 children, and grandma. Rooms are constrained by anti-gouging laws at $50 a night so dad gets 3 rooms so everyone stays comfortable. A day and some so later there is a flood of people in worsening weather, desperate for anyplace. Sorry, see if you can make it another few hundred miles. No gas, same reason? Too bad---

If the price had been allowed to rise to $150-$200 a day, maybe dad #1 would have been tempted to rough it some with one room, leaving some space for later people.

It is human nature to hoard in times of scarcity, it's hardwired. How many of you are sitting on 10-20-30 thousand primers (or more)? Hoarding seriously exacerbates shortages because it dramatically increases consumption. What you call "gouging" is also human nature, that which is rare and in demand is more valuable. It also is a strong deterrent to hoarding and hoarding is the central element to the problem.

Anti-gouging is also a strong deterrent to new supply. If primers sold at $60, don't you think supply would come from somewhere? Price controls have been tried in various contexts for thousands of years and they always have the same effect, shortages.

I would love to see you to start selling some of your stash for $30/thousand. Don't want to? Why not? Would you sell a couple of thousand of your stash for $300/thousand? If you found a willing buyer, should anyone have the right to tell you that you couldn't make that deal? Why should you feel that you have the right to dictate to anyone what they should be allowed to charge for their product of service? Surely you can see what lies down that path.
 
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It's a real shame, that the unrealistic fears or the self induced paranoia of a few misguided souls, can create an atmosphere that muddies the waters so bad.

So bad, that others will not be able to enjoy a hunt with their son or compete with their friends at the local club.

I applaud proprietors who had the foresight and guts early on, to restrict purchase quantities for the sake of all shooters. Good going guys! :D
 
Tom D

Tom
I see what your saying but it doesn't ring true.Out here the motels fill up on friday and saturday and they are empty the rest of the week.They always charge you more for friday and saturday and it hasn't done anything at all but line there pockets with money.The big hotels in Reno and Las Vegas can charge any amount they want for New Years and they will still be booked solid a year in advance.The exorbidant prices hasn't done a thing to squelch the demand.
Lynn
 
Lynn said:
Tom
I see what your saying but it doesn't ring true.Out here the motels fill up on friday and saturday and they are empty the rest of the week.They always charge you more for friday and saturday and it hasn't done anything at all but line there pockets with money.The big hotels in Reno and Las Vegas can charge any amount they want for New Years and they will still be booked solid a year in advance.The exorbidant prices hasn't done a thing to squelch the demand.
Lynn
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Kinda makes a man wonder how the MGM Grand went bankrupt, don't it?
 
Big Al

Al
Most of Nevada is not very populated so most of the customers came in from California.I stayed many a night at the MGM then it became Ballys then the Reno Hilton.What killed them was the Indian Casino's in California.You no longer had to drive all day to get to a casino and because they were mostly smaller they treated you very well.The big Reno hotels switched to 3rd rate help and you never knew if they were going to carry your bags or mug you and you couldn't understand anything they were saying.
My ex-mother inlaw won a fullsize Dodge 4X4 and I won a boat at our local casino and I have never done very well in Reno.
If you ever watch a re-run of the TV show Judge Judy and see a guy suing his ex-wife over a boat that is most likely me.
Lynn
 
We feel your pain.

I suppose the cheaper than dirt buffets are a thing of the past in the casinos? I hate the dirty places anyway. The smell of cigarette smoke is enough to make me gag. Ever notice how you had to walk by every game table to get to the food? Can't get to the bar for all the game machines that take up every inch of the bar top.

Can't go to Reno and look at every woman and not wonder?

I used to think that Carson City was the best place in the State.

Good help is hard to find? That's because Barbra Boxer has first hire choices for her hotels in Ca. First choice of all the wets that is.:D
 
I have 8,000 Federal 215 primers, LR Mag. left in store inventory. May-be 3,000 cci 200, Normal price of $34, and $28 per 1000 still in effect. anybody who wants to stop and buy is welcome. I will not ship. Limit 2000. I don't care for hoarders either. Currently my suppliers are out of stock so this is all I have.

The link has my store address and hours.
www.centershotrifles.com
 
Now thats what I'm talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jim has the primers and a buying limit without the GOUGING.
Good on you Jim S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lynn
 
That is EXACTLY what I am talking about also!!!

An honest man making a living selling at a fair price and not trying to screw anyone. Jim, my hat is off to you and may others learn by your example.:)

I live in MN which isnt to far away and you just made me want to spend money in your store.

jamie
 
I used to buy all my stuff locally at a place in Phoenix (who ships all over the country). I have been buying the primers and such that I need on and off for the previous year. I bought my last 5000 in October or November and now he has raised his prices to $50/1000. I thought I paid a lot at $40. His powder went up about $5/lb too! I won't buy anything from him anymore- others that I deal with are still maintaining REASONABLE prices- I just wanted to support the "local" place.

I spend about $2000/year with him and I am done. When we had a broken gasoline line here a few years ago some of the stations raised their prices to $5/gallon. We did a good job of boycotting them during and after and they are all out of business now. I hope all of you are willing to support those who are fair to us and shun those that would bend us over the proverbial barrel!
 
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