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BigDog

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Are there any places left on the plant to purchase primers (Fed210, 215, WLR or WLRM)?
 
BigDog ...

BigDog said:
Are there any places left on the plant to purchase primers (Fed210, 215, WLR or WLRM)?
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These days, the only good source may be some of your friends who may have accumulated more than their current needs warrant. Give them a try! :)
 
Powder Valley .You will have to email your order they dont answer the phone. It may take a few weeks but they will ship.
 
Big Dog

The shipping regulations keep people from selling there spare primers.I have new un-opened boxes of Winchester primers but if I can't ship them it does you no good.
Post were you are located and see if somebody has a spare 1,000 they can sell you to get you by.
Lynn
 
Local shop.

I was in the local gun shop last week when a guy at the counter next to me was buying 7,000 primers. Now I know why.

Steve
 
Your right,

There are plenty on gunbroker.com and the guys that have them all work for AIG and will screw you equally hard for them. WOW, what a bunch of greedy sum britches. A pox upon the house that charges 120.00 for 1000 small rifle primers! Ridiculous.:mad:

Jamie
 
I choked when I saw the prices on Gunbroker as well.

The capitalistic way is good for some, not for the unprepared.

Tony
 
I have been in sales for a good number of years and there is an acceptable markup on a product or service and then there is gouging. I can understand turning a profit and all that is fine but what is wrong in todays world with just charging a fair price. Why do we have to screw each other to the maximum possible extent?

The gas stations that ramp up prices to 5.00 a gallon in the wake of a natural disaster are gouging and all hell breaks loose and everyone is up in arms(justifiably IMHO). What is different here?

The people on gunbroker are GOUGING big time. I hope one day that I will be the match for the kidney transplant that will keep one of these price gouging rats alive. Staying alive would get REAL expensive for them!

Jamie
 
jaybic said:
I have been in sales for a good number of years and there is an acceptable markup on a product or service and then there is gouging. I can understand turning a profit and all that is fine but what is wrong in todays world with just charging a fair price. Why do we have to screw each other to the maximum possible extent?

The gas stations that ramp up prices to 5.00 a gallon in the wake of a natural disaster are gouging and all hell breaks loose and everyone is up in arms(justifiably IMHO). What is different here?

The people on gunbroker are GOUGING big time. I hope one day that I will be the match for the kidney transplant that will keep one of these price gouging rats alive. Staying alive would get REAL expensive for them!

Jamie
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I think you have too little appreciation of the wisdom of pricing in shortage conditions. If prices are kept low you have situations like the guy buying 7 thousand though that might be a 10 year supply for that individual. But say the price was allowed to rise to $80/1000 (or whatever). Then the individual will have a much lessor impulse to buy the entire inventory in a store and keep his purchase more in line with his immediate need. Then when you come in totally out of primers, there are some there. You might buy a hundred or two. In times of scarcity, large price increases tend to stop hoarding.

There was an excellent example in Atlanta last summer after the hurricane knocked out Gulf Coast gasoline production. There were anti-gouging laws on the books. The result: everyone in North Georgia immediately filled every tank they had, every car, gas can, boat, whatever, and when ever a station had gas there would be lines of people with 3/4 tanks waiting to top off. I was there for 4 days in October and did not find a single drop to buy. I had to leave town before my business was finished but while I still had enough gas to get to Alabama where there was still fuel. It continued far after production and distribution returned to normal. Demand was far above normal levels. If gas was allowed to rise several dollars a gallon, demand would be suppressed and there would be supply for those who truly needed it.

When you hear "gouging" from somebody, rest assured that they have absolutely no understanding of markets or economics.
 
Your point is well made and well taken and I do have some basic economy education under my belt. Market equilibrium is not what I am talking about. I understand that demand is up and supply is down which raises the value...blah blah..blah. What I am saying that is that if you already have enough to eat, you dont need to steal food out of the mouths of others unless your a gluttonous pig. I know a guy here in town that hasnt been to a range in 3 years(by his own admission) but snapped up 9000 primers "cause ya never know".

In rethinking it all, the clouds may have parted some for me also. The hoarding has already occured and essentially ended(no primers available retail anywhere). Now, a select few hoarders see the chance to turn a very large buck by selling on gunbroker the primers they bought yesterday(with no intention of ever shooting them) for a fat profit. These are the people I take issue with. Theres even a guy on GB that says something along the lines of "I have way more than I will ever shoot so I'll do everone a favor by putting these 1000 primers out here for 125.00". Very big of him, huh? Right!!!!!

Maybe I am the only one who thinks this way and if I am off my rocker on this, I apologize.

If someone is buying whatever, and actually uses them thats one thing. If people are doing it to make money off the other JOES out there, that is another. If a guy buys 100,000 primers because he pulls the trigger 100,000 times a year, buy'em up, I'll help you carry them to your car.

If a 104 year old fella buys 100,000 primers and dislocated his shoulder last time he touched off the ol' .22lr, just because he thinks the apocolypse is coming, he is part of the problem. If a fella cant find a few hundred primers to take him and his 10 boy to a dog town on their once-a-year trip because some paranoid cat thinks he has to be ready to defend Podunk, USA from immenent attack or some greedy SOB needs to take advantage of anyone he can, I have to deal with it, but I dont have to like it.

One thing is for sure, I have learned that I cannot beat'em and must join'em so now I have to turn into the monster I despise. I have been educated.

Jamie
 
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I don't have a problem per se with the folks on GunBroker...except that I am the one running low on primers!

I differentiate this situation from gas shortages. Primers are not a necessity as is transportation/energy...although for some it comes close when mental health is thrown into the mix...I get irritable when I can't shoot. Just remember that the gas station owners who raised prices did so for profit and not so that more people would have a shot at getting some gas...they are not that altruistic.

I am not ready (yet) to pay $125/1000 for primers as my loading needs are recreational and I have other guns I can shoot in the meantime. Come fall and hunting season, I may pay whatever the market demands in order to develop a few new loads for wester hunting. Until such time, I will keep looking and hope that the supply demand balance will return to a historic ratio.
 
BTW,

If anyone in the Houston area has Fed210/215 or WLR/WLRM primers for $40/1000 or less, I would be willing to swing by and pay ya for them.

Bigdog
 
BigDog ...

For HUNTERS there's always Muzzel Loaders and Bows and Arrows. No shortages there ... yet.
 
You aren't alone here

jaybic said:
Your point is well made and well taken and I do have some basic economy education under my belt. Market equilibrium is not what I am talking about. I understand that demand is up and supply is down which raises the value...blah blah..blah. What I am saying that is that if you already have enough to eat, you dont need to steal food out of the mouths of others unless your a gluttonous pig. I know a guy here in town that hasnt been to a range in 3 years(by his own admission) but snapped up 9000 primers "cause ya never know".

In rethinking it all, the clouds may have parted some for me also. The hoarding has already occured and essentially ended(no primers available retail anywhere). Now, a select few hoarders see the chance to turn a very large buck by selling on gunbroker the primers they bought yesterday(with no intention of ever shooting them) for a fat profit. These are the people I take issue with. Theres even a guy on GB that says something along the lines of "I have way more than I will ever shoot so I'll do everone a favor by putting these 1000 primers out here for 125.00". Very big of him, huh? Right!!!!!

Maybe I am the only one who thinks this way and if I am off my rocker on this, I apologize.

If someone is buying whatever, and actually uses them thats one thing. If people are doing it to make money off the other JOES out there, that is another. If a guy buys 100,000 primers because he pulls the trigger 100,000 times a year, buy'em up, I'll help you carry them to your car.

If a 104 year old fella buys 100,000 primers and dislocated his shoulder last time he touched off the ol' .22lr, just because he thinks the apocolypse is coming, he is part of the problem. If a fella cant find a few hundred primers to take him and his 10 boy to a dog town on their once-a-year trip because some paranoid cat thinks he has to be ready to defend Podunk, USA from immenent attack or some greedy SOB needs to take advantage of anyone he can, I have to deal with it, but I dont have to like it.

One thing is for sure, I have learned that I cannot beat'em and must join'em so now I have to turn into the monster I despise. I have been educated.

Jamie
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I feel the same way. If it gets bad enough, i'll pull out my longbows and start enjoying them again.
 
Gouging 101

Tom D
Your description is classic Gouging 101.
What you probaly meant to say was the gas stations and also the stores selling primers should have put a cap on the amount that could be purchased without raising the price at all.You can buy 10 gallons or you can buy 1,000 primers per visit or per person.

Doubling the price on any product you already posess do to a natural disaster or shortage is text book Gouging.
Lynn
 
Have one shop here in maine that would only sell 1000 primers per custustomer because he was not able to get any more for maybe 6 mounts.I payed 36 dollars a 1000.But its not just primers that people are charging all outdoors for just take a look at all reloading stuff in your local shops,the same shop that had the primers was selling h1000 for 35.50 a pound compared to the 18 dollars for it throught powder valley.Ordered 95 pounds of powder off them a month ago an got 43 of it the rest is still on back order an for get about varget an 4831sc maybe in june or july if we're lucky.Wish I would have jumped on the band wagon when this all started an I wouldn't be in the same boat as some of us are with hardly enuff or just enuff stuff to get me throught till mid summer.
 
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