Photo through BR scope?
- Thread starter Jeff Stover
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moosehunter
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The first time I shot BR was at 1K. Everyone fired a sighter and the range warden called a cease fire, walked the bench line insuring that every rifle was either bolt out or had the chamber flag in place. He then radio'd the scorers to come out and mark the sighter shots by holding a stick with a red arrow on the bullet hole of your target. While this was done all watched THROUGH THE SCOPE and made adjustments. Believe me this did creep me out at first but I got used to it as a safe practise. Over the years Ive traveled to a number of ranges and accepted it as the norm. Bolt out or chamber flag in and your rifle is unfireable.
Bolt OUT!!!!
Every time you get up it's bolt OUT!!!! This'll keep you from being dq'd at a match and IMO has safety implications. It's simply too easy to walk away from a rifle with a round setting on the loading dock....... how many times have y'all opened the bolt for a deer or a dawg or some other reason? Maybe just to keep a round cool........and got distracted.....if you're not on the clock.
SOME DAY you'll find a bolt AND a round in there at the same time. I was setting up my chronograph when it happened to me. I was wondering why I couldn't see light through the bore for my lineup, then I remembered, I was staring down a 6PPC loaded round! The bolt was OPEN, the round was just laying there but it was still creepy because I know of an incident where a guy had this same situation on his home range only some buddy of his came in to show ANOTHER buddy the cool gun and he closed the bolt and said "here, check out this trigger!"
The guy was downrange setting targets.
His buddy drove up with HIS buddy........
And wanted to show off the 2oz trigger.........
Nobody was hurt
I now treat even my own home range as a competition area. Bolts OUT! And when we're shooting together we check each other.
just another opinion
al-safetygeek-inwa
Every time you get up it's bolt OUT!!!! This'll keep you from being dq'd at a match and IMO has safety implications. It's simply too easy to walk away from a rifle with a round setting on the loading dock....... how many times have y'all opened the bolt for a deer or a dawg or some other reason? Maybe just to keep a round cool........and got distracted.....if you're not on the clock.
SOME DAY you'll find a bolt AND a round in there at the same time. I was setting up my chronograph when it happened to me. I was wondering why I couldn't see light through the bore for my lineup, then I remembered, I was staring down a 6PPC loaded round! The bolt was OPEN, the round was just laying there but it was still creepy because I know of an incident where a guy had this same situation on his home range only some buddy of his came in to show ANOTHER buddy the cool gun and he closed the bolt and said "here, check out this trigger!"
The guy was downrange setting targets.
His buddy drove up with HIS buddy........
And wanted to show off the 2oz trigger.........
Nobody was hurt
I now treat even my own home range as a competition area. Bolts OUT! And when we're shooting together we check each other.
just another opinion
al-safetygeek-inwa
Dick Grosbier
Club Coordinator
My apologies, I thought this was a Benchrest forum.
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moosehunter
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Just a little something we do to get some excercise while were out there. Either jog to and from the target or we have mountain bikes for it. Its not a range its abn old logging road that goes 1150yds in a nice straight line, makes a left onto a landing and ends there. Bolt out totally safe, chamber flag in the bolt cant be closed and not possible for a round to be in the chamber, also safe.
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Jeff in OH
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My thoughts exactly!
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moosehunter
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As stated the road makes a left and ENDS there on an old landing CLEARLY VISIBLE FROM THE BENCH! On the right side of the road is a lake and on the left is a cut block (logged off area) open and visible. The road is unused and has been for several years. Its a winter logging area about 60 miles South West of Prince George BC way the heck and gone out in the boonies. You could sit at that bench for days and not see a single person until freeze up. We are making all kinds of personal judgement calls based on the very narrow perspective of a picture frame. Pics of targets through a BR scope was called for and I supplied one. If its going to be picked to pieces then K.M.A (explanation of abbreviation supplied on request if needed)!!!Im not going to spend my time responding to ill informed criticism.
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Rock63
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Thank you to those who provided the requested images.
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Daryl S
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I see your point, Fred - but with bolts open and everyone back from the benches behind the safety line, I've yet to see an accidental shot fired. This is the senario I have adhered to back in the early 70's at club-run ranges and at the Police and Corrections ranges I supervised for 20 years.
: Some ranges request guns be removed to racks behind the lines upon a cease fire being called. No firearms are allowed to be handled during cease fire. Thus there can never be an accident. I've never been on a range that required bolts to be removed. My flintlocks, single shots and lever guns wouldn't be allowed at those ranges, I presume?
: Actions open and step back seems to cover most senarios.
: I see nothing wrong with this 'picture'. Now, if someone were sitting at that bench in the picture, I'd be blowing the whistle loudly.
: Some ranges request guns be removed to racks behind the lines upon a cease fire being called. No firearms are allowed to be handled during cease fire. Thus there can never be an accident. I've never been on a range that required bolts to be removed. My flintlocks, single shots and lever guns wouldn't be allowed at those ranges, I presume?
: Actions open and step back seems to cover most senarios.
: I see nothing wrong with this 'picture'. Now, if someone were sitting at that bench in the picture, I'd be blowing the whistle loudly.
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Jimm
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Mr. Al
Would you mind explaining the " vld " workups as I am experiencing something similar and would like to compare notes .
My apologies to the original poster but sometimes you gotta get it where you can , : )
my thanks and again ..... my apologies for going off topic .
jim b
Would you mind explaining the " vld " workups as I am experiencing something similar and would like to compare notes .
My apologies to the original poster but sometimes you gotta get it where you can , : )
my thanks and again ..... my apologies for going off topic .
jim b
Jimm,
Go over to the 600-1000yd forum to the post "help with my bag setup?" and you'll see this same pic with some explanation. I've got a picture of the next days workup and the third workup also, the page is almost full. I hope to get them posted soon.
I'm trying to get a 6X47 to shoot. I've made progress, at the time of the picture I'd gotten rid of the fliers and had it shooting at the .250 level, 50% of the time
Now here's the deal, when I say "50% of the time" that does NOT mean that half of the groups are good.............It means that the gun doesn't repeat, yet.
Yesterday and today it repeated, from 4 days ago.
It took me 4 yrs to get to this stage with the 6BR, it's only taken a month for this case. I would right now shoot it against a PPC @ 300yds. On a GOOD day I say this because this BadBoy rips bag setups asunder........ I've got to learn to shoot it. I'm learning, slowly. I've got about 655 rds through this new barrel and by the time it goes South I'll have 'er Whipped.......
ANYways....... please ask your questions over on the other thread
OH, and BTW, if you've got VLD's shooting as good as those in the pic you've already done something seriously right.
al
Go over to the 600-1000yd forum to the post "help with my bag setup?" and you'll see this same pic with some explanation. I've got a picture of the next days workup and the third workup also, the page is almost full. I hope to get them posted soon.
I'm trying to get a 6X47 to shoot. I've made progress, at the time of the picture I'd gotten rid of the fliers and had it shooting at the .250 level, 50% of the time
Now here's the deal, when I say "50% of the time" that does NOT mean that half of the groups are good.............It means that the gun doesn't repeat, yet.
Yesterday and today it repeated, from 4 days ago.
It took me 4 yrs to get to this stage with the 6BR, it's only taken a month for this case. I would right now shoot it against a PPC @ 300yds. On a GOOD day
I say this because this BadBoy rips bag setups asunder........ I've got to learn to shoot it. I'm learning, slowly. I've got about 655 rds through this new barrel and by the time it goes South I'll have 'er Whipped.......ANYways....... please ask your questions over on the other thread
OH, and BTW, if you've got VLD's shooting as good as those in the pic you've already done something seriously right.
al