OSHA Machine Guarding

MilGunsmith

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I know most of us work in small one or two man shops, but for those of us who work in bigger facilitys, etc. How do you get around all the OSHA guarding requirements and still manage to do gunsmith work in a lathe? Our safety guy here wants me to use so many guards that I cant see the tool when threading to a shoulder, or keep my hands away from the reamer and holder when chambering. Forget trying to use a file or a deburring tool or polishing a chamber. Any suggestions? Pictures would help.
Thanks
 
Shoot that "SOB" he could never design such a system that would allow you to chamber and finish with all the guards he is requiring...the only way to do it is in an enclosed environment CNC machine...just suggest that they purchase the very best 3 axis HAAS CNC lathe and train you to program it...that will set them back $300,000-$500,000 (with tooling)..money usually puts the brakes on the OSHA bullsh*t demands...
I worked in a Fortune 50 company and the Safety Dept. was always nagging us to fully guard all production equipment to meet OSHA guidelines (vague/general). They even hired design engineers to develope guards...the results were a big expense and comical and production slowed down due to shutting down machines to take samples or make adjustments that could be made while the machine was running (best for precise adjustment)...What a logistical nightmare and expense, just drove up the cost of the product to the customer...
 
This is also true in the construction industry. You cannot conform safely and humoring the tweakers, trying to satisfy them, is like rassling a pig. They're getting paid, you're not.

I don't have an answer.

Many companies are leaving the United States because of this garbage, it's called "voting with your feet" and BTW there are plenty of people on this board who have voted for and will continue to vote for even more government interference (read "government oversight: etc...)

Canada's looking better all the time, seriously, I've got tons of family there.

Hopefully this "global warming" thing is real, I may just move north ;)

LOL
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Of course, in Canada, there are Compensation mandated safety requirements which interfere with productive work as well. Sometimes the inspectors are a bit flexible though.

A few years back, I was working with a bridge construction company who were building a bridge (no surprise there!) near my home. My task on this particular day was to load rebar on to a skiff, haul it out to the bridge piers and pass it up to the ironworkers. Over the course of three days, I loaded hauled and passed up about six tons of steel. It was hot (mid-nineties) and I was in the sun. The inspector came by and admonished me for not wearing a lifejacket. I pointed out that falling in and drowning didn't sound that unattractive to me. On top of that, I pointed out, if I wore the life jacket, I would likely overheat, pass out, and fall in the water and drown anyway. He laughed and said I should at least have it on the boat.

In the machine shop, I installed guards on some of the lathes after having to have my beak stitched after being lashed by a stringy chip. Also, it was nice not to have hot chips going down my shirt.

Re global warming: Most Canadians are not too concerned about global warming. In fact, threatening a Canadian with the prospect of a warmer climate is like threatening a pit bull with a pork chop!! Regards, Bill.
 
I work in a large Government (Aircraft Rework) facility and I really feel your pain. Every day we are faced with asanine requirements for machine guarding that interfere with the intended use of manual machines. One of the head safety people decided that the Baldor buffers needed guards so he designed them similar to the wheel guards used on bench grinders. Naturally the buffers are nearly useless and prone to entrap parts and body parts. We are required to have a guard between us and any chip or spark producing operation, but so far we have not been stopped from filing, sanding, or polishing. We have small polishing / deburring lathes that are intended for hand polishing and breaking sharp edges of parts after they are machined with CNC. I can just imagine some safety specialist putting guards on them.

The only thing I can think to do is attempt to explain to the safety folks that some standard practices are not expendable and try to get them to understand the necessity of hand finishing operations. As far as seeing the tool when threading up close to a shoulder, I use an indicator and don't even try to watch the tool for the last couple of revolutions. I can stop the thread without a relief groove within about .02 of a shoulder every time.
I wish I could be more helpful. Government facilities as well as contractors all seem to be looking for ways to cut expenses in the face of expected government spending cuts and the amount spent on disability payments is staggering, hence the newfound focus on safety at all cost.
 
You and your employees must go through osha training and learn the security aspects and methods so that you can easily handle any emergency situation.
 
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