New Nightforce BR Scope - Buy Now, Wait, or Don't Bother?

Dusty Stevens said:
Its probably not on the site. Bart had em done. Think of a regular dot crosshair that the crosshairs dont touch the dot- lil gap between em. The tactical crosshairs are not bad and i prefer it now that im used to it.
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Dusty - if you click the link I posted above you'll see they're showing both the fine with floating dot and fine with anchored dot. Like I said, if I didn't have a March I'd be all over the IOR.

-Lee
www.singleactions.com
 
I'm with you

James M. said:
At 36x, however, I cannot see bullet holes at 600 yards (with my 72 year old eyes). I am hoping that the new Nightforce with HD glass and 42X power will allow me to see the holes with ideal conditions. Good shooting...James
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on the magnification. I'm 66 and I could stand a scope that gave me more X when conditions allowed. That's the beauty of a good variable like the March. I may try an optical booster this year. I have used borrowed ones a few years go and liked them. If it works it will be a cheap solution to the X issue for me.
 
)Stephan said:
Why is it more expensive than a NF 12-42x56 ... ? I was happy to hear they made a featherweight scope until now..
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It's the ED glass that makes the cost a lot more. The BR model does not use this glass.
 
I have been shooting the 15x55 comp night force. I want to tell you this is one of the finest scopes I have used. With that said if the 42x is anything like the 15x55 I'll have 10 ordered fast. Right now I'm waiting for it to come out and try. I will let you know as soon as I get my hands on one.
Lou murdica
 
Im the same way jackie but its so clear its like a 40 or 50 march. If you dont like it just send it back theres usually a line at matches pickin em up. Sold a bunch at the nats.
 
I would be curious as to how the internals of the Valdada compares to the old Leupold 36BR, Weaver 36, Leupold 45x, and Sightron. I have had all of these apart and know the "flaw" of each. Most can be traced back to the pivot joint in the erector tube assembly.

How Valdada and Nightforce addresses this would be interesting to see. The truth is, that joint has to be free enough to allow the tube to pivot without binding, but firm enough as to not allow any shift in position. It also has to be sturdy enough to resist loosening up under the countless number of recoil relations experienced in a Benchrst Rifle.
 
sdean, the first 15X-55X was changed because the dot was too large. I am glad when companies listen to the customers. There was nothing wrong with the optics of that model. Good shooting...James
 
sdean said:
The first Competition scope got changed the first year. Just sayin.
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I own one of the first year models and love it. Dot is bigger than some people like but I am fine with it.

James M. said:
sdean, the first 15X-55X was changed because the dot was too large. I am glad when companies listen to the customers. There was nothing wrong with the optics of that model. Good shooting...James
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Exactly!
 
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jackie schmidt said:
I would be curious as to how the internals of the Valdada compares to the old Leupold 36BR, Weaver 36, Leupold 45x, and Sightron. I have had all of these apart and know the "flaw" of each. Most can be traced back to the pivot joint in the erector tube assembly.

How Valdada and Nightforce addresses this would be interesting to see. The truth is, that joint has to be free enough to allow the tube to pivot without binding, but firm enough as to not allow any shift in position. It also has to be sturdy enough to resist loosening up under the countless number of recoil relations experienced in a Benchrst Rifle.
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jackie or others with knowledge..... if you guys have figured this out I'm sure the company have. if so why don't they just do what it takes to solve the problem form the beginning? would the price/labor be to much that if they did it to ALL of their scopes (any company) would that just make the price go up on the lower end ones that it wouldn't benefit them to do this. especially for hunters who do not need for there hunting rifle scopes to hold that type of tolerances? but i would think scopes over $1000 and up that they would go ahead and do that type of work on those scopes. or is it like you put in one of your other post, over time with the recoil that they take ALL will eventually need something done

not to mention company names but after these years of the $2500 and up scope that benchrest shooters starting buying have they had many returned to "fix" anything

how often do y'all think it is not the scope in the end and not just the rifle not being competitive? not saying a scope can't go bad ........... man that was a lot of NOTS :)

Sorry to the poster for changing the topic.
 
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scott mims said:
jackie or others with knowledge..... if you guys have figured this out I'm sure the company have. if so why don't they just do what it takes to solve the problem form the beginning? would the price/labor be to much that if they did it to ALL of their scopes (any company) would that just make the price go up on the lower end ones that it wouldn't benefit them to do this. especially for hunters who do not need for there hunting rifle scopes to hold that type of tolerances? but i would think scopes over $1000 and up that they would go ahead and do that type of work on those scopes. or is it like you put in one of your other post, over time with the recoil that they take ALL will eventually need something done

not to mention company names but after these years of the $2500 and up scope that benchrest shooters starting buying have they had many returned to "fix" anything

how often do y'all think it is not the scope in the end and not just the rifle not being competitive? not saying a scope can't go bad ........... man that was a lot of NOTS :)

Sorry to the poster for changing the topic.
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Scott, let me expound a little on what I said.

Most scopes use some type of ball and socket or spherical joint that anchors one end of the erector tube. The other end is held in place by two abutments 90 degrees apart, with some type of spring holding the erector tube against these two abutments. These abutments are, of course, extensions of the turrets.

Try to look at a scope as a piece of machinery. Regardless of how well designed and manufactured a piece of machinery is, under it's intended use, it sooner or later will wear out.

The difference in super premium scopes and the lower end models is at least the upper end ones should hold POI when new, and through a reasonable service life.

I am going to send my 50x March back to Deon Optics and have it gone through. It's an expensive item, I'm sure worth paying to have tightened up.

It gave me great service.
 
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