New bullet making Thread

To my friend NADER. I think you know this but others may not you know my procedure.
Oxidation on the lead . I clean it off with steel wool. oooo type If you keep it wraped in saran wrap
It won't oxidize on you. just wrap the roll of wire.
Sloppy presse are Not great for pointing They are ok for core forming .
You need a good press with proper leverage for the points and core seating.
David Detsch will chase the threads on the new RCBS press for you. He made a special tool for this.
 
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Note on the press you can have a oversized ram made to take out the slop. You can also have the pins made larger to tighten things up. I Re adjust the dies each time and chnge punches as necessary. I keep a bullet and seated core from my last run of that weight for set up. Just lube the bullet place on the ram and pring it up slowly . screw the die down and lock the ring. You should be very close on the first form. tweek in down for complete close if you need to.
I check the point tip with a Mag glass. Same with the Core seated jackets.
 
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Punch build up. You should not have any noticable amount of lead build up on the punch. If you do more then likely the punch is a tad too small. If copper is on the punch then it's a tad too big. You may be withing .0005 [1/2 thous] DIA
If some gets on during set up I use butches bore shine and a small piece of oooo steel wool to get it off.
Those punches are very hard and it shouldn't hurt the punch.
I like to keep my dies cool . Others like to warm them up to about 90 degrees Fh
I don't wash jackets lately the J4 jacket i receive are just about spotless.
I talked to eric about this once . Still if you have tool steel dies and fear scartching them then i would give the hot dish soap wash followed by a rinse and a dunk in super hot water. Lay them on an old clean towel to dry. Usually they dry really quickly. If the water is hot enough.
 
One last thing THE LUBE Formula of lube you use makes a differance.
I use Bob Simonsons lube. George Ulrich has given me what he thinks It is
I think B&A had it right with almost all anhydrous lanolin
Its pretty stringy stuff but microwave it and it softens up and add your favorite addative like vaseline.
Its about 7 to 1 . I got this from George Ulrich
 
Gerry, Can you post a pic of your Vertical core cutter for us to see? I will take some pic's of my set up and post them later on down the road after I get everything like I want it. So maybe some others can see how I did my bullet making room, and get some ideas of their own. Because I like to see what others have done and use some of their ideas.
 
Pete, If you are referring to my post. Here's my answer to that. I do not ask of anyone, anything that I would not be willing to share. If I am working on something and you wanted to know about it , I would gladly share it. Because you may have an idea of how to improve on what I am doing and vice versa... I am new to bullet making and so are others here. Just looking for answers.

Gerry, If I am out of line with my request just say so. I apologize....
 
I was trying to inject some humor

my comment was meant to be a little comic releif but a time delay in placing my answer made it not work. Sorry, It's tuff to make humor in writing work, at least for me. Making bullets is not something I have wanted to do and at my age, probably won't ever do it.
 
I'll se what i can do on the photos. I'm not a photograper or a computer wiz. If i do get it going i'll post several .

No your not out of line. Pete At 67 i still do it "
 
Pete, Am I Mad No, But my wife has been telling me for 35+ years that I am Crazy, and I do not believe her either.. I apologize Sir.. My pms must have been working OT
 
Couldn't restore the old thread...

....but here's a copy - attached.
 

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Wilbur,
Thank you on your attached files.
Fla mac
john
Mims, Fl.
 
Thank you Wilbur, I am going to put this in a file right now so I will always have it.

Dan Honert
 
Wilbur. I don't know how you did it but WOW its great"
Hats off to WILBUR"" Great job.

For the record - It was me that caused the loss in the first place. That I brought the info back in a lesser form may not be worthy of "hats off" but I'll take it wherever i can get it. Incidentally, I still don't fully understand why the original disappeared from view :confused::confused:

Placed two confused smileys - one for me, one for Elmer.
 
core seating quest

Hi:)
Ive been following this thread and the previous one and would like to thank all that have added they knowhow.
I have just started out and so far made about 2000 bullets, making 2or 3 hundred at a time and i can state for sure if there was something i could do wrong well i surly did so.
Neverless they didnt shoot too bad (some flyers),my dies are from Niemi in 30 cal ,which i am very happy with,but i have a problem in unstanding the core seat process well.
So heres my question ,my shank measurment is 30825 so after about 24 hours of retirement my seated cores should be about .0001 smaller.
lets say that i have a thicker than the average lot of jackets and can not expande out the base wthout going well over the leadline measurment.
so which of the two measurments is more important ,at the base or at the lead line,ending up with a .0001 smaller measurement.
Thaks in advance to all replys Remy
 
REMY
You're making it too hard. If every seated core comes off the punch with no ruptures, point them up and toss them into the done box. Good components and good dies make good bullets. Measuring or trying to make them measure has no value.

Set the dies up, develop a consistent stroke, and throw 'em in the pile. If you falter on a stroke (and everybody does), throw that one in another pile.
 
wilbur said it right don't make this harder than it needs to be.if base doesn't come up to size before the mouth you should look at a smaller punch. george p.s. thanks to gerry for restarting this thread.
Hi:)
Ive been following this thread and the previous one and would like to thank all that have added they knowhow.
I have just started out and so far made about 2000 bullets, making 2or 3 hundred at a time and i can state for sure if there was something i could do wrong well i surly did so.
Neverless they didnt shoot too bad (some flyers),my dies are from Niemi in 30 cal ,which i am very happy with,but i have a problem in unstanding the core seat process well.
So heres my question ,my shank measurment is 30825 so after about 24 hours of retirement my seated cores should be about .0001 smaller.
lets say that i have a thicker than the average lot of jackets and can not expande out the base wthout going well over the leadline measurment.
so which of the two measurments is more important ,at the base or at the lead line,ending up with a .0001 smaller measurement.
Thaks in advance to all replys Remy
 
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