In the last six years at Harrison, I do not recall a situation where a scorer and our two designated referees did not agree. We have only had a few challenges. We have different referees for each match and I guess we just trust each other. I can't think of anyone so desperate for $10.00 in prize money and a hat pin that they would cheat.
Two refs and a scorer has always worked but if the rules say that we need three then so be it.
Keep It Simple
Mike
Harrison, Michigan
The reason for three referee's is obviously to break a tie. The official scorer can't be a referee as he/she has already judged the target...so can't be expected to be objective. Same goes for the Score Committee members. Say for instance that five Score committee members serve as referee's at a Grand Agg tournament. Now say that there is a target each day that is protested by the same competitor. The referee's judge each target, and make the final match decision. Now lets say that at the end of the tournament, this set of targets is deemed to have possibly set a new world record. The targets are then signed by the referee's and the range officer, and sent off to be judged for a new record. Here's the problem...The very people that have already made a decision regarding these targets, signed the targets, are now judging the targets again for a new record. Does this strike all of you as a far fetched scenario? Well I can assure you, it is not. I have the targets to prove it. Until recently, most all of the big IBS score matches were set up just like this. And if you go to the IBS website and click on Agenda Items to be voted on for this years annual meeting, you will see that the Score committee would like to go back to the way it was. Also on the agenda for the winter meeting is this item:
F. Scoring 7) Official Record Scoring Procedure a. At the end of an aggregate or grand aggregate where a potential record has been set, the Prospective record aggregate targets are to be turned over to the Host Club Director. b. Prior to being turned over to the Host Club Director, the competitor is responsible to get the targets identified and signed by all match Referees and the Range Officer. The competitor shall be responsible for submitting all possible record targets, including record aggregates, to the Host Club Director on or before the last day of the Tournament from which the targets were fired. The competitor is to fill out a records submission form, or a reasonable facsimile, listing his/her name, address, date potential record was shot, what class, and aggregate was being contested, the caliber he/she was shooting and the club name where the potential record was shot. The Host Club Director will retain one copy of the letter for file and will forward the letter, identified targets and backers (if applicable) to the Chairperson of the Score Committee. c. The Score Chairperson shall arrange a meeting with at least three of the Score Committee members to officially score the targets. The committee members will use whatever tools or procedures they need to establish where the bullets passed through the target paper to appropriately score the targets. After Official Scoring is completed on possible record targets, the results and targets are to be forwarded to the competitor. d. Range scoring shall apply to aggregates and grand aggregates. The scores will be accepted as official scores of that match and must be honored in the placement of competitors.
Score Committee Recommendation: The Score Committee recommends this agenda item as written.
IBS Executive Board Recommendation: The Executive Board recommends that this agenda item be combined with the G#1 and add wording that effects 600 and 1000 yard record targets and place the one consolidated rule into the general tournament procedures section of the rulebook so that the record target handling procedure is handled for all disciplines on equal footing and in one place. It is also recommended that the wording be changed to state that targets are to be turned into Host Club Director on the day that the potential record is set.
As you can see, the Score Committee and Executive Board have a difference of opinion in the way this item is written. The Board recognizes that one body, the Records Committee, should handle ALL potential IBS records. The rulebook as written now, states that the Score Committee shall judge all potential Score records.
I urge all of you to read the agenda items, and come to the winter meeting and exercise your right to vote on these items.