Making a 204 Ruger shoot

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Imbecile. In America you may call .204/500y./pig a "sport", I call it a "piggery".

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to Varmint guy: comparing the 32 bk at 4030fps to the 39 bk at 3750,using the jbm ballistic program the 39 will have more retained vel. at approx 235 yds. The 32 will never be more than .5" flatter at every range out to 500yds.The 39 will have better wind deflection at all ranges past 100 out to 500 yds. and will have more energy. ( I did not check the ballistics for less than 100yds) I used the velosities that Federal publishes. The Hornady ammo will not shoot to their advertised velosities.
 
Is it possible that Prairie rat shooters out West want to "see" more results than the Eastern 'chuck hunters do. Doping a 1/3 minute wind difference at 500 yds seems to be nice to talk about on the forum, but situational in the field.

In the past three years, my two shooting partners and I have tried all the .204 bullets, and agree that the 32 Hornady produces the "best'' results on the rats. Of course we're mostly shooting under 400, not 2 miles like all the experts.

Good shooting in the chuckery!:D
 
Marion packett: I am not disputing your points regarding wind deflection or similar trajectories - my point was the lighter bullet recoils less and is still very effective on Varmints of all sizes and at all manner of ranges - that I shoot them at anyway (out to around 500 yards).
The 32 grain bullet is 20% lighter than a 40 grain bullet - does that equal about 15% less recoil? Taking into consideration the velocities and the weights of the powder charges.
If you can recall, how much difference in wind deflection is there at 400 yards with the two bullets - the 32 and the 39 grainers?
Thanks in advance.

Wapiti: I seldom shoot at Varmints beyond 475 yards. Maybe 3 to 5 percent of all my Varminting takes place at ranges longer than that.
And I often shoot seperated from my Varminting partners by varying distances. Thus I like to be able to spot my bullets impacts. This is somewhat easier to do with the 32 grainers than with the heavier 20 caliber bullets.

Did I set off "PPP MMM" somehow?

Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
 
Fireball 10X: Nice shooting there with the CZ! Those are great groupings.
And congrats on the Wood Chuck you bonked as well!
The 204 Ruger is an amazing and efficient cartridge!
You guys are all shooting your 204's better than I do mine - to tell the truth it seems EVERY 204 Ruger Rifle I come across shoots real well!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
 
Marion packett: I went to your ballistic chart site and plugged in the Remington numbers (weights, speeds, B.C.'s) and the difference at 400 yards in total wind drift is 9.50" for the 32 grainers and 7.50" for the 40 grainers - or 2.00" difference.
At 500 yards the numbers are 16.10" and 12.40" respectively or 3.70" difference.
These wind drift numbers are for a 5 MPH wind at 90 degrees.
Thanks again.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
 
VarmintGuy,

The .204R is great, I own more then I'll admit (along with 20BR's). Early on when brass wasn't available and even factory ammo was short I experimented with all factory fodder that was made. The Remington shot very well, the 32 gr a bit better then the 40 grain, but the factory fps was way optimistic on the 32's!! In fact when I tried to load to factory speeds with both weight bullets the primer pockets failed before I could get a half dozen reloads. Winchester brass with a good primer (thick) will meet or exceed factory spec's and the primer pockets stay tight. The Sierra Blitzking 39 gr really excels at long range and for PD aerobatics. Slick bullet and it goes 200-300 fps faster in the 20BR!

The Remington factory varmint barrels need more weight in my opinion. Especially off a bipod but they move a tad off a nice BR sand bag like I use. Try routing out the forearm barrel channel on your XR-100 and fill with a couple pounds (or+) of lead. Makes a big difference. Two years ago I purchased a gun off the classified's here from a former BR shooter. He in your area and used it for prairie dogs, it has a Mcmillan BR stock, trued 700SA, 27" x 1.25" no taper PacNor three groove SS barrel, match chamber and Jewell trigger.........heavy, but a delight to shoot. I've ran over 1200 rounds through it and my PD friends named it Killer!
The factory Savage LRPV sports a 1"+ x 26" barrel and it behaves nicely too.
 
Your wind deflection numbers agree with the jbm ballistic program to .1" at standard metro atmosphere. Remember I use the Savage LPV that weighs 10#, with scope rings and base more than 11#. Recoil is not a factor! Energy is a factor at longer ranges more so for ground hogs than p. dogs. In Va, where I shoot I have found it harder to terminate a ground hog than a fox. The fox,grey or red, is less compact than the pig. The 32 may be best for you, the 39 is best for me, since I'm shooting at heavier animals and hoping to score on a coyote(aver.40#). Good hunting, Marion
 
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