Hart rifle action ?
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chino69
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Why not just call Hart? One of those guys should be able to answer your question.
Dick Grosbier
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What do you want to know ? I have owned three?
Well I have a old hart vey low ser#.. and seemed no one can really tell me the model it is..they say it's a 1A and its not, even hart told my that, I said no it's not and it seemed they just did not care to even talk to me about,,i'm sure they have had 33k call's with the same question's.
Well I have been chating with several fellows the last few days and we found it, It is a very old #1 plain.. or what they used to call the #1 varmint...
Nothing like the #1 plane they make now days.
It has a remington bolt..
I was considering selling it to help fund a new rifle build,,Dont even really know what to ask for it???
So priced it very high.....It really is a piece of benchrest history..like i said its a very low ser# less than 200
But it shoots so well..I dont know maybe i will just hang on to it.
Like ya think man it is just so cool and even with a old wore out rem bolt with .004 clearance it just shoots but then your thinking man i wish it had a different bolt and i wish this and that about it,,then your thinking maybe it's not as cool as a new shiny RBLPRE .lol
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As I told you i have 2, an old one number 2xx and a new one the old one is commonly called a duck bill , it has the receiver extention to keep the scopes off the barrel. The new one is different it is lighter and uses a hart bolt.
The old one are kind of neet , you change the bolts with a little work. you can even get a Kiff bolt if the slop worries you.
I wouldn't worry about the slop in the bolt. If the rifle shoots really well leave it alone.
An yes Tony uses one it's a heavy varmint.
The old one are kind of neet , you change the bolts with a little work. you can even get a Kiff bolt if the slop worries you.
I wouldn't worry about the slop in the bolt. If the rifle shoots really well leave it alone.
An yes Tony uses one it's a heavy varmint.
I have looked through my e-mails to try and find the page out of the old hart catalog that someone e-mailed me and the e-mail is gone.....
hun...seems he maybe somehow deleted or pulled the pic's he e-mailed me..i know i did not delete them, even looked in my trash and history, gone...
well i was going to post that page where it listed the actions they made and the size's and weight's of the action and a few pic's from a old catalog.
no cantilever on this action,but does not mean there wasent at one time..but the action is 8.5" long by 1.400 dia. and that is listed in the old hart catalog as
a #1 plain action. weight was like 2lb 9oz if i remember right. the 1A was 9 7/8" long by 1.600 dia. like i said no way its a 1A..i have seen a few pic's of one.
my ser # is 18x .. and the action was reworked by a top smith or was he just a top machinest who did work for a select few,i'm not sure.but the bolt was opened up to ppc, then to .308...but what was interesting to me,,,was at 8.5" long the first 1/2 of the barrel tennion is not threaded..it is not a sleve or a cantilever
it is the action,,,so i was wondering if all old #1 plain's that were 8.5" long did not have the first 1/2" of the barrel tennion unthreaded.?
I would think so, because it would seem strange that you would have that much thread.so i'm thinking that all older #1 plain's had the first half inch of the
action unthreaded.
Here is a pic of that old remington bolt and a 5 shot group from that old hart action.
sorry i just could not resiist...I got to go work on cases and a rifle so i can shoot tomorrow..
hun...seems he maybe somehow deleted or pulled the pic's he e-mailed me..i know i did not delete them, even looked in my trash and history, gone...
well i was going to post that page where it listed the actions they made and the size's and weight's of the action and a few pic's from a old catalog.
no cantilever on this action,but does not mean there wasent at one time..but the action is 8.5" long by 1.400 dia. and that is listed in the old hart catalog as
a #1 plain action. weight was like 2lb 9oz if i remember right. the 1A was 9 7/8" long by 1.600 dia. like i said no way its a 1A..i have seen a few pic's of one.
my ser # is 18x .. and the action was reworked by a top smith or was he just a top machinest who did work for a select few,i'm not sure.but the bolt was opened up to ppc, then to .308...but what was interesting to me,,,was at 8.5" long the first 1/2 of the barrel tennion is not threaded..it is not a sleve or a cantilever
it is the action,,,so i was wondering if all old #1 plain's that were 8.5" long did not have the first 1/2" of the barrel tennion unthreaded.?
I would think so, because it would seem strange that you would have that much thread.so i'm thinking that all older #1 plain's had the first half inch of the
action unthreaded.
Here is a pic of that old remington bolt and a 5 shot group from that old hart action.
sorry i just could not resiist...I got to go work on cases and a rifle so i can shoot tomorrow..
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The duck bill or receiver extention is removeable. part of the receiver in the front area also is not threaded.
Both of mine were that way. I had the front of the action machined down to remove the extra non threaded area in front of the receiver also I had a flat milled on the bottom. just forward of the trigger.
This is on the newer action. I did this to remove excess weight. its far easier to make light varmint now.
Both of mine were that way. I had the front of the action machined down to remove the extra non threaded area in front of the receiver also I had a flat milled on the bottom. just forward of the trigger.
This is on the newer action. I did this to remove excess weight. its far easier to make light varmint now.
Gerry i dont understand what you are saying? the duck bill you are talking about is a cantilever to put the front scope block on. and it was removeable.
you had the action shortened to remove the 1/2 unthreaded part of the action? right. what model did you say your action was?
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Halo68
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Hi, I have a couple of Hart catalogs 1979 and 1982 They have all the actions they built with there Dia. lenths and weights if you need any info, let me know.
I was told a 1 or 1A by wally years ago on #2xx. The action I'm referring to is the newer model that was bought on his last run of BR actions a while ago. Both have an unthread portion. Even the new one. This one had no extention and has a Hart bolt. I also have a Remington action with a duck bill extention on it.
It is in 308 and has a Hart stock with a varmint target type contour. I guess you would call it a poor mans HV.
When BOB and Charlie were alive they did a lot of different things. I bet the kids in the shop don't even know about that Remington , Probably the only one who knows is Walley. I bet it,s some where in his old log books though.
I'll check the new one to see what if any model number it might have,
It is in 308 and has a Hart stock with a varmint target type contour. I guess you would call it a poor mans HV.
When BOB and Charlie were alive they did a lot of different things. I bet the kids in the shop don't even know about that Remington , Probably the only one who knows is Walley. I bet it,s some where in his old log books though.
I'll check the new one to see what if any model number it might have,
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