Chrome Moly vs Stainless steel
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GeneT
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The topic is too broad...
"Stainless" and "Chrome Moly" are categories of steel and it makes little sense to compare the two without getting down to specific alloys. The alloys used for barrel making do seem more resistant to heat, but that doesn't explain the rampant use of stainless alloys in actions - which completely befuddles me - I very much want a chrome-moly action, but for some reason they are not that popular! Call it marketing.
OTOH, I must disagree with rmisthsr - in general, chrome-moly alloys are much more forgiving to machine. Some stainless alloys are downright painful, but I've never found a chrome-moly alloy that didn't machine nicely.
"Stainless" and "Chrome Moly" are categories of steel and it makes little sense to compare the two without getting down to specific alloys. The alloys used for barrel making do seem more resistant to heat, but that doesn't explain the rampant use of stainless alloys in actions - which completely befuddles me - I very much want a chrome-moly action, but for some reason they are not that popular! Call it marketing.
OTOH, I must disagree with rmisthsr - in general, chrome-moly alloys are much more forgiving to machine. Some stainless alloys are downright painful, but I've never found a chrome-moly alloy that didn't machine nicely.
Butch Lambert
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Butch Lambert
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Art, yes sir.
Also, nitriding is very hard. IME all machining including the crown wants to be done prior to pickling
Butch Lambert
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Yes,but I have recrowned them after QPQ.A carbide parting tool can get below the hardening.
I've got Dan's barrels on 3 guns at the moment and have had at least 8-10 others through the years....all stainless and all have shot to real Benchrest standards. It was a Lilja .30 twisted 1:17 on the gun when I won the IBS Hunter National Championship and also snagged the High X memorial Cup. Even after drifting into the cut rifled world with the .30's, the button rifled Lilja's accuracy remained the standard by which I judged any of the cut rifled .30's. Also his .17's are especially good.
Good shootin'.
-AlI've got Dan's barrels on 3 guns at the moment and have had at least 8-10 others through the years....all stainless and all have shot to real Benchrest standards. It was a Lilja .30 twisted 1:17 on the gun when I won the IBS Hunter National Championship and also snagged the High X memorial Cup. Even after drifting into the cut rifled world with the .30's, the button rifled Lilja's accuracy remained the standard by which I judged any of the cut rifled .30's. Also his .17's are especially good.
Good shootin'.
It was a JOKE Al..... a JOKE!! LOL..... the old "what does he know ennyhow" format....to be used when someone quotes the opinion of an acknowledged expert in a roomful of rednecks
Ditto Al
I still have a Lilja 1-17 30 barrel that was chambered by Jerry Simison in 2004 with RGs reamer. I was lucky enough to break the 17 year old IBS 100/200 grand agg WR at a shoot in Vermont in June of 2005 with that barrel and his 118 gr 10 ogive bullets. I put it back on this spring and have taken two 100 yd 1sts and a 3rd with it, with well over 3700 rounds through it. I'm not a bragger and this is not the intent, but it is my intent to say he makes good barrels. --greg
I've got Dan's barrels on 3 guns at the moment and have had at least 8-10 others through the years....all stainless and all have shot to real Benchrest standards. It was a Lilja .30 twisted 1:17 on the gun when I won the IBS Hunter National Championship and also snagged the High X memorial Cup. Even after drifting into the cut rifled world with the .30's, the button rifled Lilja's accuracy remained the standard by which I judged any of the cut rifled .30's. Also his .17's are especially good.
Good shootin'.
I still have a Lilja 1-17 30 barrel that was chambered by Jerry Simison in 2004 with RGs reamer. I was lucky enough to break the 17 year old IBS 100/200 grand agg WR at a shoot in Vermont in June of 2005 with that barrel and his 118 gr 10 ogive bullets. I put it back on this spring and have taken two 100 yd 1sts and a 3rd with it, with well over 3700 rounds through it. I'm not a bragger and this is not the intent, but it is my intent to say he makes good barrels. --greg
Jeeeepers..... how did this turn into a Dan Lilja affirmation thread?? If I did this, I sincerely apologize for a tongue-in-cheek comment, an attempt to add some credibility to his opinion thru levity.
"Dan's opinion is worthy""
"Dan makes a good barrel"
"Dan writes a great article"
"Dan TESTS this stuff above and beyond....his opinions are not guesses"
Ohh, and did I mention, "Lilja Rifle Barrels are among the best on the planet" ..... that "Many folks win and have won many competitions including the BR disciplines where intrinsic accuracy potential is the single biggest factor"...... and that "Dan's barrels are LIT'RALLY as good as barrels can be"....
Ummm..... "Dan=Good"...... even, "Dan Lilja's opinion > Joe Blow's"
Dan also knows what is important in a barrel, I currently have custom barrels in the pipe with Lilja because they offer some spec's which 80% of other custom barrel makers do not, where other makers are choosing to stay in their collective ruts Dan is expanding the field, pushing back the barriers, extending the bleeding edge, offering stuff which us experimentive types value.....all while maintaining a standard of excellence unparalleled in the industry.
Chris Dichter makes a good barrel too, and he offers things even Lilja will not........ but I won't mention this for fear of AGAIN completely derailing the op's question
I have no meaningful opinion regarding the op's question
"Dan's opinion is worthy""
"Dan makes a good barrel"
"Dan writes a great article"
"Dan TESTS this stuff above and beyond....his opinions are not guesses"
Ohh, and did I mention, "Lilja Rifle Barrels are among the best on the planet" ..... that "Many folks win and have won many competitions including the BR disciplines where intrinsic accuracy potential is the single biggest factor"...... and that "Dan's barrels are LIT'RALLY as good as barrels can be"....
Ummm..... "Dan=Good"...... even, "Dan Lilja's opinion > Joe Blow's"
Dan also knows what is important in a barrel, I currently have custom barrels in the pipe with Lilja because they offer some spec's which 80% of other custom barrel makers do not, where other makers are choosing to stay in their collective ruts Dan is expanding the field, pushing back the barriers, extending the bleeding edge, offering stuff which us experimentive types value.....all while maintaining a standard of excellence unparalleled in the industry.
Chris Dichter makes a good barrel too, and he offers things even Lilja will not........ but I won't mention this for fear of AGAIN completely derailing the op's question
I have no meaningful opinion regarding the op's question
GeneT
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You!
You posted a smart-aleck remark, and then worried that people would misconstrue it after the fact.
Not criticizing, but that is exactly how it happened.
GsT
You posted a smart-aleck remark, and then worried that people would misconstrue it after the fact.
Not criticizing, but that is exactly how it happened.
GsT