bulk reloading lube?

One Shot Case Lube Sale

I've been using Hornady 1-Shot at ten bucks a pop.

Anything else work as well?
al

Al
Natchez Shooters supply magazine came in yesterday (9-22-12) and One Shot is on sale for $6.89/can
If you didn't get the magazine try natchezss.com
CLP
 
It's a no brainer

Hi all

I thought I'd put my two bits in (okay, another essay, but I care about your health) about the safe use of solvents for reloading since it's come up. I use solvents of every variety every day at work and I've just set up a new lab for a new employer where I've almost entirely eliminated the use of dichloromethane (DCM, 1 carbon, 2 chlorines, 2 hydrogens). It's like carbon tetrachloride (CTC, 1 carbon, 4 chlorines). This isn't to pick out the use of CTC but to give some advice about getting rid of oils from brass. Oils kill primers faster than anything else you'll come across reloading.

Some of the suppliers I've dealt with asked "you're still allowed to use DCM?!?"

Like CTC, it does such a good job. It mixes with other solvents, dissolves stuff, won't mix with water. It's denser than water, but when I mix 30% dichloromethane and 70% hexane (similar to gasoline) it separates and floats on water. Great for extracting solvent soluble things from water (like drugs from blood or urine in my job). Just take it off the top and dry it off. Use chlorobutane if you don't want to blend solvents - it's the most chlorine you can put into a solvent and still float on water.

DCM evaporates quickly - it's boiling point is just above body temperature. Doesn't burn readily - strange for such a volatile solvent. When it does burn it decomposes into phosgene, a chemical agent popular in WWI and Northern Iraq. Nice. Latex gloves are not fully protective - wear nitrile (and glasses - always wear glasses with just about everything - you only go blind once). And use it in a fume hood - if your environmental agency lets you use it at all.

Andy - you're right about carbon tetrachloride (CTC, 1 carbon, 4 chlorines) - don't ingest it in any way, but where does it go when it evaporates? It doesn't absorb well into activated carbon filters. Please don't quote me and I'll stand corrected, but something like 1 kg (2.2 pounds) of CTC destroys something like a ton of ozone. CTC is also much like chloroform (1 carbon, 3 chlorines, 1 hydrogen). It's not used for general anaesthetics any more, just in the lab.

I use gasoline for cleaning oils from cases. It does a great job and as far as solvents go it's really cheap and clean, cheaper than thinners, and it's the oils that stop primers from going off and powder from burning. I've used acetone (old formula nail polish) with similar success, but it costs more. Acetone is also good for helping dry wet cases since it's miscible with water (but not in the oven!). And it won't give you cancer or destroy the ozone layer. Just don't pour it down the drain when you're done. ;-) Leave it to evaporate outside and away from an ignition source when it's too contaminated to reuse. Luckily for me I've got another couple of litres of acetone from the lab that was recently used to clean the electronics from a mass spectrometer. Still perfectly good to sonicate brass! Ethyl acetate (new formula nail polish remover) is good, but isn't completely miscible with water like acetone.

Reloading is fun and should be safe well into your cancer free old age. And leave some atmosphere for the grandkids to inherit. :)

Regards
Ben

Well the safety procedure I use is a no brainer. First of all I put on the gas mask with the appropriate filter installed not just a respirator. This also covers the eyes. Use nitrile gloves and take the beaker the cases are in outside. It can be reused so after cleaning the brass the ctc is poured back into a smaller bottle. A litre lasts about a year. The brass looks like new inside and out in 5 minutes.

As far as the hoppes is concerned I just added the nitrobenzene back to it after it was removed. It works as well as it always did. And people wonder why I wear gloves and cover the muzzle of the rifle when cleaning my barrel.
Andy.
 
Spray case lube...

Dillon makes a great pump spray case lube in 8 oz bottles.

You can get some liquid lanolin and some Ever Clear from the liquor store.. The Ever Clear is the carrier and the lanonlin is the residue lubricant.

Nat Lambeth
 
Dillon makes a great pump spray case lube in 8 oz bottles.

You can get some liquid lanolin and some Ever Clear from the liquor store.. The Ever Clear is the carrier and the lanonlin is the residue lubricant.

Nat Lambeth

Why Everclear instead of isopropyl or something? Will this mix be neutral to the powder charge?
 
the safety procedure I use is a no brainer.

Hi Andy
I don't mean to be a PITA, but if I wanted to use CTC in the lab I'd have to use a ducted fume hood that sucked at least 600 litres (approx 150 US gallons?) of air a second and was certified every year for safe operation. I'd also need a license from the EPA. Using it outside is a good idea, but it is still absorbed through your skin. It's a great solvent - it dissolves through your skin instantly on contact and into your blood. IIRC, to get rid of it your liver then metabolizes it into carbon monoxide. Nice. As a solvent it IS too good to be true.

Chlorinated organic compounds like DCM, chloroform and CTC are formed when drinking water is chlorinated. The water supply is checked for trace levels of these compounds to ensure our health. Levels need to be below parts per billion to be considered safe. I still recommend gasoline as a cheap clean solvent and acetone as a more expensive but even safer alternative. When I have a primer fail to go off I put some light oil in the case to make sure it's deactivated before I deprime the case. Gasoline gets all the oil out nicely for the next reload.

Regards
Ben
 
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