Bronze brush. yes, or no way!! ????

Skeetlee

The proper use of a cleaning rod as Jackie says is very important.
Beyond that, the recipe's for barrel cleaning goes on forever. Do
yourself a great favor and buy a borescope. Your learning curve
will be much shorter. You can evaluate your barrels, crowns and
cleaning methods, watching the throat as you break in a barrel is
an education of its own.
BTW. viewing all the nice pastel colors is still guessing, nylon brushes
still have a brass core.
 
alinwa said:
After cleaning you lean the rod on your shoulder, brush downward, hannle up... now trickle Ronsonol on the rear (top) of the brush and let it spiral down off the tip taking all the color and crud with it. Don't do this over your pancakes. Cleaned this way I've got brushes ten years old. Ya' store 'em in AIR, stick 'em away in the range box.

al
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I agree with Al and Butch.....

Cleaning a brush is a good practice but as Butch said, why worry... Just use it long enough for the shoot your competing in.. One day two or even a week. Then throw away. But I will say that after a two day shoot, the physical wear on the bronze brush will make it ineffective.

Ronson lighter fluid quickly neutralizes every solvent I have used on a bronze brush. It'll keep one going well for a 2 day shoot and clean to boot.

Here is a fool proof way of determining copper in a bore............ Wether cleaning with a ammonia based solvent or the new modern ammonia less solvents...

When at home, and you clean your bore in a normal fashion. On the final 2 wet passes leave the bore wet overnight. Next morning take a CLEAN dry bronze jag (or steel or plastic). Clean the bore guide, clean patch on the jag and quickly run the patch through the bore... If blue "splotches" random between the lands is seen, there is copper in there and it's the bore. If mostly still white or very lightly light blue colored... Your GOOD .... Go shoot the thing. And life is good.

cale
 
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Ordinary rubbing alchohol works great to clean brushes and neutralize the bore solvents. At 99 cents, a 20 oz. bottle goes a l-o-n-g way. Put some in a little trigger squirt bottle, toss it in your loading box and you're set to go. Whether you toss the brushes after each event or not, clean 'em before you stick 'em back down the barrel.

The worn brushes work nice for wrapping a patch around and JB-ing.
 
alinwa said:
My first shot generally goes into the group after cleaning. Second shot is a keeper.

al
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Pic is a 5 shot 100 yd group from my coyote rifle I shot today after cleaning with Butches. The fouling shot was way out...

Ben
 

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Bnhpr said:
Pic is a 5 shot 100 yd group from my coyote rifle I shot today after cleaning with Butches. The fouling shot was way out...

Ben
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yo Ben..... ya' shot it wet din't ya!

Run two or three dry patches through until she squeaks and this won't happen I'll bet.

If you're tight like I'm, you don't have to waste these patches, turn 'em over and use them for your next wet ones.... meantime they'll set out in the open to see if you get any color.

And hey, if that was a dry bore shot ????? dunno what to say! None of my barrels do this.

BTW, I believe that shooting really wet with ANYTHING in the bore is asking for trouble. "wet" like dried with a single patch but not squeaky..... or "wet" like single dry stroke after "treating" with (colloidal graphite, penephite, lock-eez, seagull poop) but again not squeaky is probably OK but WET like some do is hard on the barrel. The late Skip Otto used to "firelap" his BR bores using tranny fluid. He'd loose patch the stuff through his barrel to get a nice even coating end to end and then fire. He did this several times while breaking in, claimed it ironed and smoothed the bore.....burnished maybe. But done over time it'll groove tracks into the bore.

Skip was scoping barrels back when scoping wasn't cool.....

al
 
Ben,
Ya got her figured out! Dump one in the dirt before you go huntin'!
Now see,that's what happens when you think for yourself.Instead of believing everything you hear on BR Central.
Joel
 
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Brushes

It seems that when it comes to topics that shelter strong opinions, the "to use a bronze brush or not" is right up there with "how tight should I tighten my barrel".:D...........jackie
 
I clean both bronze and nylon brushes with denatured alcohol. I use empty Hoppe's 4 oz bottles filled with the alcolhy, just dip the brushes in quickly and dry them with a clean paper towel.
 
Why do you clean your brushes? There is no crud on the end of the bristles on your brush, just in the center.
Too long of a winter already. I don't believe that anybody is going to change his mind on cleaning from this thread.
Butch
 
you have all winter to get that bbl. clean...

but...between relays you only have a min. of 30 min. to get your ammo loaded and your bbl clean...and stop by the "porta-poti....
Listen to Butch he gets out of Texas on a regular basis and knows what works in the real world of Benchrest......I am just Naval lint, but I use bronze burshes because the are stiff enuff to assist the solvent (of your choice) to wisk out what the solvent has loosend....the patch does tell part of the story ...but to see if the bbl. and your cleaning regimne is adequate you should take a peep with a borescope or at the very least shine a lite on the muzzle with a patch aprox 3/8" from exiting the bore....that is my poor mans quik way of chekin it out,,,I think the reason that the first shot goes astray is "it is going down a clean bbl...the next bullets are running over the carbon and jaket wash from shot #1,,,the pressure and velocity and point of impact are effected by this condition(my better bbls usually put that shot aprox a bullt low @ 100yds)!!! ((my cave man way of lookin at it))I cant wait for the snow to melt,we still got lots of snow on the ground...grrr...Roger
 
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COYOTE rifle... Whaaat ??

Originally Posted by Bnhpr
Pic is a 5 shot 100 yd group from my coyote rifle I shot today after cleaning with Butches. The fouling shot was way out


:rolleyes:
I have a couple bench guns that wont shoot that good..Wanna Trade..:confused:
 
alinwa said:
yo Ben..... ya' shot it wet din't ya!

Run two or three dry patches through until she squeaks and this won't happen I'll bet.

If you're tight like I'm, you don't have to waste these patches, turn 'em over and use them for your next wet ones.... meantime they'll set out in the open to see if you get any color.

And hey, if that was a dry bore shot ????? dunno what to say! None of my barrels do this.

BTW, I believe that shooting really wet with ANYTHING in the bore is asking for trouble. "wet" like dried with a single patch but not squeaky..... or "wet" like single dry stroke after "treating" with (colloidal graphite, penephite, lock-eez, seagull poop) but again not squeaky is probably OK but WET like some do is hard on the barrel. The late Skip Otto used to "firelap" his BR bores using tranny fluid. He'd loose patch the stuff through his barrel to get a nice even coating end to end and then fire. He did this several times while breaking in, claimed it ironed and smoothed the bore.....burnished maybe. But done over time it'll groove tracks into the bore.

Skip was scoping barrels back when scoping wasn't cool.....

al
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Al,

I always run my last patch light oil in the bore...I know..I know..

I can still hear my father preaching...it's just a habit. It also necessitates sighting in. The dry patch is more practical.

Rifle and snowmobile loaded for camp, bait will be out on the lake tonight... and miles to go before I sleep.

Ben
 
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