8208 Pulldown

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Shinny
Just bought some 8208 pulldown and was wondering if anyone knows how to interpert lot numbers.:confused:

I have never shot this powder before and know nothing about it. Any info on how well (Lot AAC 122910) performs, starting load for a 6PPC and any other pertinent info will be greatly appreciated.

Thanx
 
Start at 28.5 and go up. You should find something that shoots very well between 29.0 & 29.6 Then half a click up or half a click down (normally around .4 grns) to keep in tune.

The U.S. goverment has changed the way the lot numbers are done, before that (around 1980) it was impossible to determine anything but who loaded the ammo by the lot number. AAC was loaded by Accurate Arms Co., other than that, it's all speculation. I'm awaiting to hear back from Army Ammunition Activity as to any background on this lot.

Hovis
 
KEITH MYERS said:
So Hovis if this powder was loaded by Accurate Arms then how can it be a IMR powder?
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Keith,

It may or may not be IMR 8208 but that has nothing to do with the lot number. The lot number is who assembled the ammunition. IMR never assembled ammo, they just produced powder. When ammo is DRMO'd, it is sold under the manufacture lot number and there may or may not be any documentation that shows the components. Re-search can deteremine the manufacture of the components and the lot numbers of them through the lot number of the ammo.

Hovis
 
i think he got his words mixed up...the powder was sold by accurate, could be loaded by anyone ...lc/wcc/ fc....anyone.

mike in co
 
The headstamp on most will be A A XX (for yr) just like LC forLake City. FA for Federal. WCC for Winchester. RA for Remington Arms. Etc. But all these manufactures have also used LC brass.

Hovis
 
fa is not federal ..its franklin arsenal yes ??
fc is federal
they must keep that stuff on the east coast....i make my living in the brass business...have never seen an aa case........just goes to show ya...learn something new every day.
mike in co

HovisKM said:
The headstamp on most will be A A XX (for yr) just like LC forLake City. FA for Federal. WCC for Winchester. RA for Remington Arms. Etc. But all these manufactures have also used LC brass.

Hovis
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Carefully notice the terminology used with this powder. It is advertised as pulldown by one seller. It is labeled as "military surplus" by its supplier. There can be a big difference in "pulldown powder" and "military surplus".
 
Shinny,

Just shoot it. Likely best at 28.5 to 29.1 unless real dense lot. That should be 52-53 clicks. Contrary to popular believe 8208 WILL shoot in cool damp weather. Don't worry about the speed either, leave chrono at home.

jks
 
Shinny,
Jeff is right.

In cool/cold weather, keep an eye on the first patch you run through the bore during cleaning. If you see what looks like unburnt kernals, drop the load 1 to 1 1/2 clicks.

Mike,

Your right...my typing isn't the best. FC is federal. I've not seen as wide a mix of headstamps in the surplus market as I did in the Army. When I shot divisional teams, we would shot different lots that ASP had and get them to set enough aside of a standout lot to get us through the year. I've seen headstamps that I never did figure out but most of it was NATO ammo in Europe shot during joint training exercises. When shooting pistols (92F's), we always found that the WCC lots would be the best and really consistant between lots. We would occasionally get the UMC ammo.....it was generally crap.

Hovis
 
Jeff Stover said:
Shinny,

Just shoot it. Likely best at 28.5 to 29.1 unless real dense lot. That should be 52-53 clicks. Contrary to popular believe 8208 WILL shoot in cool damp weather. Don't worry about the speed either, leave chrono at home.

jks
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I just weighed my load at 28.7gr, thats 50.5 clicks on my old Sinclair measure. I would like to know the velocity, but that will have to wait till another day.
 
Shinny
Listen to Jeff-the stuff works. I have shot that powder extensively and some of the best aggs I ever had with it were in cool, damp weather!

Jim
 
Keith
I am referring to all the lots of pulldown I have used. One thing I did notice is there were some very slow lots and some very fast lots. The ones that worked best were the ones that tuned 28.0 to 29.5 of powder

Jim
 
The latest offering, sold as IMR 8208 from High Tec Ammo, is very clean powder , almost new looking. I sifted a jug and found
nothing but powder, none of the pc's of asphalt bullet sealant or dust. It is at home with 28-29.5, but doesn't ressemble anything
I'm familiar with from Dupont.
 
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