20 Foot berms on you range??

yes

DR

We had NRA come out to our range, and yes we have
20 foot plus berms. At the top of our dirt berm we have
added 6x6 beams, put 2x8 treated lumber on both sides
of 6x6, and added rubber mulch in between. (noise
dampener). Cost was not even close to $50,000. Had
a club memeber do the work as i assume you also had.

Good luck either way,

Steve Huff
 
Where will be in 25 years.

If we are going to be able to have firearm ranges, we have to make them safe and most of us are all for that.

Today we might have legal problems. Tomorrow we could have political problems and most ranges could be closed.

If you were a Boy Scout you remember the motto, "Be Prepared".

Concho Bill
 
Interesting topic

Our Sheriff department has a 50 yard pistol range. Standish, MI. Right next to the animal shelter. It's not 20' it's more like ten foot. It points right in the direction of our city. I can hear them from where I live. I'm less than two miles from them as the crow flies. Their are tree's in the way but they aren't old trees. They are about 30-40' tall. How can I get them shut down??? This way the gun club I belong to can profit from there mistake.

I say a lot has to do with politics. The rifle range was shut down at Linwood, MI.( http://www.linwoodbaysportsmans.com ) The neighbor have a golf course and a lot more money. Linwood has been their for at least 50 plus years and is grandfathered in as a range. They can't shoot rifles at all. They have to go to a different location.

They have been fighting for decades. The gun club borrowed $100,000 and built a range with 30' plus tall berms. It looks impressive. But a real good lawyer found a mistake in the paper work on the clubs end. The range is shut down. Piles of pressure treated lumber is sitting out and can't be touched. The range has been closed till further notice. This range has been closed since late 2005.


Mark
 
M.D.Spencer said:
Our Sheriff department has a 50 yard pistol range. Standish, MI. Right next to the animal shelter. It's not 20' it's more like ten foot. It points right in the direction of our city. I can hear them from where I live. I'm less than two miles from them as the crow flies. Their are tree's in the way but they aren't old trees. They are about 30-40' tall. How can I get them shut down??? This way the gun club I belong to can profit from there mistake.

I say a lot has to do with politics. The rifle range was shut down at Linwood, MI.( http://www.linwoodbaysportsmans.com ) The neighbor have a golf course and a lot more money. Linwood has been their for at least 50 plus years and is grandfathered in as a range. They can't shoot rifles at all. They have to go to a different location.

They have been fighting for decades. The gun club borrowed $100,000 and built a range with 30' plus tall berms. It looks impressive. But a real good lawyer found a mistake in the paper work on the clubs end. The range is shut down. Piles of pressure treated lumber is sitting out and can't be touched. The range has been closed till further notice. This range has been closed since late 2005.


Mark
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Shot down without a single shot fired, now that is sad!
 
One shot out of safety that injures someone on a public range will cost way more than any safety features the range installs. Fortunately in the two states I've lived in for any length of time ranges that are in operation are almost impossible to shut down unless someone does something REALLY stupid. A lot of localities aren't so fortunate, with the majority of the non-members being opposed to guns and shooting, so if someone is offended by noise or traffic the range is closed.

People will buy houses right next door to a shooting range or a racetrack then whine about the noise after the fact. Frequently the range or racetrack is shut down instead of telling the whiners to cowboy up or move.
 
target board

zippy06 said:
At the local range. Our berms are going up this yr. We started last yr.
We were getting ricochets on the rifle range. Saw one myself.
But, we also shortened the target board. Instead of 4x8 plywood. It is 2x8.
And starts at 4' and goes up. That helped a lot. Haven't heard any complaints after that. :)
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can you email me info about target board
boer.bok5@verizon.net
 
A story about trees and bullets. A few years ago in the town next to where I live, 4th of July, some knuckleheads were shooting a 44mag at a 55gal drum in the backyard, innocent enough. One mile away, throug trees, folks were watching the fireworks when all of a sudden a guy sitting in a lawn chair drops over dead with a GSW. Of course the perps didn't know anything about it until the next day it was in the paper, they hid the gun. The cops figered out where the shot came from, went looking and found the drum full of holes, captured the guys, found the gun. Thanks, Douglas
 
Roger T said:
We have the 20+ foot berms on our clubs 25yd Pistol/smallbore. but they only work when USED as designed.Case in point , About 4 yrs ago the local sherrif gets a call from the owner of a small golf course.Seems a BULLET just came though his roof and busted his wall clock (40cal HP). The Sherrif knowing that our gun club is just west of the golf course about 3/4 mile comes over to see if/who is shooting at the time. well guess who's there ? the CITY POLICE DEPT. Doing their officer down drills.where the officer is on his back at the foot of suspect firing up at him. Well the Police saftey officer didn't think it would HURT anything by shooting over the BERM (A REAL SHARP TACK that guy). We came EXTREMELY CLOSE to loseing our range that day. They now have their own range about 10 miles south of town (old sand pit) glad I don't live that direction. So berms do work you just have to use them like they are designed to be used........oh BTW NO DISIPLENARY ACTION WAS TAKIN ON ANY OFFICER THAT SHOT THAT DAY.they were all shooting 40s and the city didn't want the EMBARASSMENT to do the investigation:mad:
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sound like a similar incident on our 300yd. range where I witnessed 6 characters pull up to the range pileout of 2 black cars with mounted antennas and dark tinted windows. They immediatly uncased full auto Uzi's and fired many rnds., into the dirt about 25-50 infront of the firingline richoets were flying everywhere farmland was beyond our berms :eek: I politley asked them to stop as I was out numbered and outgunned :( the showed me their "FBI" id's and said their weapons just arrived from Quantico and they were there testing them. I briefly explained the rules regarding range safety and explained the consequenses of an accident and it's affect to our club as a whole. I closing I suggested the use their FBI range for that style of conduct. :mad:
 
Just before the last IBS Nationals at St Louis, they had just spent about $400,000 for berms. They had bullets landing on house roofs quite a distance from the firing line.

I guess our mountains are good for something beside climbing. One of the local ranges here I shoot at spent $85,000 redoing the 30 bench 100/200 range in 2006. In 2007 they spent over $100,000 for a 60 bench 50/50 rimfire range. Takes a lot of money to run a good gun club and keep the neighbors happy.
 
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