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Al....you're welcome. Maybe the next time I have a couple extra dollars laying around I'll buy a box of 308 palma brass, neck it down to 7mm and do some chrono testing to see what happens and share the results. My gut says it won't make that big of a difference in a Hunting Rifle. Maybe I'll be...

Al you are absolutely, positively, without a shadow of a doubt,100% correct. But what I was referring to was the original post was about 7mm's and hunting rifles. Somehow that got off on a tangent...........feel better now?

LOL here we go!!

I do have a 12x42 nightforce I could throw on it. The Leupold was brand new for that rifle. I doubt that is the problem either, but years ago I did have a Vari-x 3 6.5x20 that was bad out of the box and had to be sent back. The 2 powders I had the most luck with were 8208 and Varget. Those 2...

I've been thinking of changing over the 1st rifle I ever built back in the 80's. It's a Turkish mauser action.....and what a coincidence....chambered in 284 Win. The barrel is toast. I have a new 9 twist on the shelf for it. The problem I've encountered is the supply of brass. Now if you want to...

Another thought...........in case of an ammo emergency, you would be much more likely to find a box of 7mm-08 on a shelf then 284.

Krieger 8 twist 26", P1000 single shot action, Jewell trigger @ about 8 ounces, laminated stock 2 1/2" forend, glass bedded not glued. Scope is Leupold 6.5x20 side focus w/target knobs. Powders...H4895, 8208, varget, H335 and BL-C2. Just got a lb of Benchmark but haven't tried it yet...

Well what started my thinking process, if you can consider it to be one, is that I have been having trouble getting a 6BR to shoot well. This is my first experience with a 6BR and the thing is as finicky as I don't know what. I've gotten 1 bullet to shoot fairly well, a sierra 70 match...

1++ I have both. I just did a 7-08 and necked down Lapua 308 brass. Like Jackie said, it depends on what you want to hunt. Also consider the action length. If it is going to be a 284, I'd put it on a long action for the heavier/longer bullets.

Wilbur I was more looking for a comparison of consistency between the 2 different primers in velocity with the same powder charge and if one gave more velocity and/or consistency (ES) with the same powder/bullet combination. Maybe I didn't word it right in the beginning.

well it sounds like there is more bs then I care to deal with. I guess the critters in the woods will just have to be half deaf like me.

Wilbur......I ain't fancy by any means...well maybe somewhat. I just wonder if I could talk the nice people at Charmin or Bounty into increasing the tube size on their products. LOL

I asked the same thing over on 6BR forum and got an interesting chart response. You may want to take a look. http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/450s-vs-7-1-2s-in-6br.3916930/#post-36900948

So were the pressures pretty close to the same with the 450's and the 7 1/2's other then maybe some minor tuning or was there a significant change in the powder charge between the 2?

well I guess you'd dip 'em in a chrome tank? Then the lone ranger wouldn't have anything on us bench rest shooters. ;) And I'll bet if somebody thought it would give them an "edge", they'd probably try it. Ok I'll play nice and take that part out. But I am a pretty good speller....just not a...

Has anyone ever chronoed loads to see the difference between 450's and 7 1/2's in a 6BR. Is there much difference in velocity or SD?

Jackie, I had a barrel like that. I tried to keep it as long as possible and only took 3/4" off the muzzle before I crowned. To make a long story short, I chopped off another 1/2" and it made a big difference. I guess I just wasn't back far enough to get passed the bell from...

Naaw that's for middle class folk. When you really have money the eggs go over the steak right next to the grits and hash browns and the thick sliced sugar cured bacon. Dagggnabbitt now I'm hungry.

No I haven't. But I did find a 3" shade from China on ebay. Have it on order. Bet it will be on the sloooooooow boat. I have done some searching for honeycomb material to make one like that with no luck.

I heard tell of them black eyed peepossums but don't know if it's true or not. lol