Referee Duties

[Eddie Harren]

How many Hunter Class shooters have ever been to a registered match and had a referee check their rifles to see that they conform to the rules?

[Wayne Shaw]

The only thing I have ever seen checked on any gun is weight.

[Randy Perkowski]

Over the past 15 years I have participated in both IBS and NBRSA events with a hunter rifle. In that time, most only check weight. I have never had a fore end checked for width. At one IBS national I had a magazine cutout inspected for compliance All of my hunter rifles have been built to the most stringent of the two organization's standards. For example, the NBRSA does not require a magazine cutout in the stock, but does specify fthe action must have a magazine cutout. The IBS requires that stock and action be able to accept a loaded round. As a result of this my rifles have followed the IBS rule. This will let me compete without another gremlin wandering in my head instead of concentrating on a shot.

[ebb]

I would think that he would only need to check 3. The 3 best finishers. If the out of spec gun didn't make the top three what was the difference?

[Wayne Shaw]

I like the sticker on the gun idea. I've seen people change guns during the course of a match, and they are never checked.

[John Kielly]

I like the sticker on the gun idea. I've seen people change guns during the course of a match, and they are never checked.

But they would never change rifle components once they have the sticker on it?

Bench rest isn't my game any more, but I'm chief range officer for a couple of Aussie state championships. It occasionally happens that a rifle morphs out of spec once it's been scrutineered.

[Eddie Harren]

I just fail to understand why any organization would establish a set of rules and then not enforce them.

[jim1K]

Eddie, you know the reason, numbers...... jim

[Hal D.]

The IBS has a simple protocol when it comes to enforcing the rules. In this type of situation, if a competitor's rifle is thought to be outside the rules, the referees inspect the rifle, and make a ruling. If the rifle is ruled to be illegal, then the owner of that rifle has the right to file a formal protest to be ruled on by that discipline's committee, and/or the E-Board. In the event that the rifle is ruled as legal, then the same protocol applies to the other competitor(s) wishing to protest the referees findings. In either case, the protest must be written on the same day the event took place, and given to the match director, to be turned over to IBS. If this protocol isn't followed, the IBS can't rule on the incident after the fact. Therefore, whatever ruling (or lack there of) was made at the range on tournament day, is the final ruling.

[Wilbur]

I think you're missing the point. The issue is that you can show up with a rifle that makes weight and you're good to go - because nothing else is checked.

[Eddie Harren]

Hal, I understand the protocol. I just wonder why it isn't being followed. If a shooter uses an illegal rifle, and after the match it is brought to the attention of the referees, how can the matter not be resolved then and there?

[Wilbur]

It isn't being "resolved" because the shooters in attendance simply don't care or do not wish to be involved.

[Hal D.]

Hal, I understand the protocol. I just wonder why it isn't being followed. If a shooter uses an illegal rifle, and after the match it is brought to the attention of the referees, how can the matter not be resolved then and there?

I sent you a PM Eddie.

[hillary327]

Sounds to me like someone has been listening to Fake News.

[Wilbur]

Yes, I will agree that happened. At this time I'm not sure it should have happened....but I was sure back then!