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    .222 Remington build advice

    Hi, new to the forums and am looking for advice, my plan/hope is to build a .222 Remington benchrest setup, and am hoping that some of you all would have some advice on it, ie, chamber dimension, barrel length, if you got something that works let me know. I know that there are alleged more accurate caliber's, PPC. etc, etc, but have a real nostalgic hankering to do .222, thanks to any and all responders.

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    Build it as a regular benchrest rifle and hope it shoots well enough to win. I don't believe there's any "build" advice that would have any effect on the outcome.

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    When I started shooting NBRSA matches they hadn't invented PPC's yet. I truly believe that if you were to build a deuce using today's actions, barrels, triggers etc then use current brass, powder and bullets
    You would end up with a rifle that would be competitive. I'm not saying it would consistently beat a ppc but I don't think you would be any way handicaped. You'll will often hear someone speak of wind drift etc but most of these fellows have never had a truly good 222. Ask Walt Berger Stan Bucthul or George Kelbly.

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    Dave is right. Todays components are ten times better.

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    Don't be concerned with people being negative about 222's. They can be great little rifles if you put all the goodies on a good action - that can be a trued Remington. I have a custom 222, a custom 6 PPC. a made up 6 BR and a made up 223. The made up ones are built on Remington actions. Their accuracy falls in the order above. The best group for the 222 is 0.063" Go ahead get your feet wet, you'll love it. By the way it may cost you more then you think by the time you get it to shoot great. A lot of people say to buy a used 6 PPC, $1200 to $1500 put on a new barrel, $400 and pay the gunsmith about $375 to do the work. This sometimes works to be as cheap as building competitive 222. Good luck and have fun. Al.
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    Thanks guy for taking the time to share, I appreciate it, I ordered up a barrel from Lilja on Thursday, so I'm looking at 12-15 weeks to finalize the rest of my build. I am hoping somebody will hop in an give me a starting point on reamer specs and such, I'm still up in the air on either using a trued Remington, or stepping up to a custom action. Once again thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike928 View Post
    Thanks guy for taking the time to share, I appreciate it, I ordered up a barrel from Lilja on Thursday, so I'm looking at 12-15 weeks to finalize the rest of my build. I am hoping somebody will hop in an give me a starting point on reamer specs and such, I'm still up in the air on either using a trued Remington, or stepping up to a custom action. Once again thanks.
    I'd do a .250 neck and zero freebore chamber, If I were to build myself another .222. It'll shoot just fine. Keep in mind...Most people that say you can't beat a ppc...shoot a ppc. Both are great cartridges.

    The deuce will have it's tongue hanging out a little at 200 yards vs. the ppc, though. But well within what I'll call shooter error. Neither go where you want them to if you pull the trigger at the wrong time.

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    You may want to check into the .222x35. The one I had many many years ago built on a XP 100 action shot very well and was absolutely the easiest thing to make shoot I had ever owned. Loading for it was dirt simple. 52 grain Bergers and just about any of the suitable .222 powders would get the job done. Especially T322. Nowadays with Lapua brass a .250 neck turns up perfectly. Dan Dowling did mine and he might still have that reamer or one like it. I'd kinda like to try one again myself.

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    Thumbs up .222 Build

    Quote Originally Posted by Spike928 View Post
    Hi, new to the forums and am looking for advice, my plan/hope is to build a .222 Remington benchrest setup, and am hoping that some of you all would have some advice on it, ie, chamber dimension, barrel length, if you got something that works let me know. I know that there are alleged more accurate caliber's, PPC. etc, etc, but have a real nostalgic hankering to do .222, thanks to any and all responders.
    I have a lead on a Bat SV w/.222 bolt face. The guy is asking $1000.. He says he bought for a build, but all plans fell thru..
    Contact: heaviestfattestvarmint@hotmail.com
    If I haven't deleted,, I have some pics of the action. IF I could see how to shoot , this action would be
    in my inventory
    The best thing about this action,,,, no waiting I still have the pics
    Last edited by HFVINC; 06-08-2015 at 03:36 AM. Reason: left out words

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave B View Post
    When I started shooting NBRSA matches they hadn't invented PPC's yet. I truly believe that if you were to build a deuce using today's actions, barrels, triggers etc then use current brass, powder and bullets
    You would end up with a rifle that would be competitive. I'm not saying it would consistently beat a ppc but I don't think you would be any way handicaped. You'll will often hear someone speak of wind drift etc but most of these fellows have never had a truly good 222. Ask Walt Berger Stan Bucthul or George Kelbly.
    Not to rain on anyone's parade but I think you will find that Walt,Stan,George,Mike, and Bill have all given in to the 6ppc. As fond of the 222 family as I am I'm afraid it's glory days are over if you intend to get really serious. On the other hand if nostalgia is important to you, go for it!

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    Just to re-iterate, I have no I repeat no dreams or delusions of being competitive in benchrest as a goal, just a hankering to build a .222, and my thinking is might as well do it as right as I can. Thanks again for all your advice and opinions! And keep them coming I have at least 4 times the info now as when I started.

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    George and Stan? Must be pierpressure....

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    Why would you wait on a lilja when you could do a little searching and get a krieger or bartlein in stock? I just got 2 last week a 14 and 8. For a rimfire i may look around for a lilja if somebody had one but wouldnt look too long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Stevens View Post
    Why would you wait on a lilja when you could do a little searching and get a krieger or bartlein in stock? I just got 2 last week a 14 and 8. For a rimfire i may look around for a lilja if somebody had one but wouldnt look too long.
    If I was looking for a in stock barrel I'd probably find me a krieger or a bartlein, in fact I've bought a few, but I have no problems waiting for a Lilja. And it's what I want to do so I shall do it. Thanks just wanted to clear that up.

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    Hey, there you go. Good luck!

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