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    Quote Originally Posted by tim View Post
    Yeah, maybe before we get another of your idiotic rants you should learn some actual freakin facts.
    First I am and have been a member but it does no cause any good to learn after Olliie North left about Wayne LaPierre’s multi million dollar residence or his wife's $5000 hair appointments spent with member dues to name a couple to make any AG actions that much easier.
    It’s disgusting.
    Thank you Tim, I appreciate your comments.
    NRA's move to another state was an attempted maneuver to avoid legal matters using loop holes. It appears it will not work. NRA used to be mostly about education and trainning, then it became more about high incomes for a few and a political slush fund. It's sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimsplce View Post
    Thank you Tim, I appreciate your comments.
    NRA's move to another state was an attempted maneuver to avoid legal matters using loop holes. It appears it will not work. NRA used to be mostly about education and trainning, then it became more about high incomes for a few and a political slush fund. It's sad.
    See Dawg??

    !!!

    This guy JOINED THE FORUM just to tell us all how he likes tim and thinks the NRA sucks

    Your govt is strange.....

    our PEOPLE are strange!

    The freakin' SYSTEM still works here.......

    We are getting exactly what we've been voting for.....

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    OK, you two. Personal attacks don't belong. Let's not make a moderator stomp on anyone, ok?

    Just sayin'.....Roger

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    Roger totally agree everyone has a personal opinion and they could also be friendly one's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimsplce View Post
    .... NRA used to be mostly about education and trainning, .......
    The fact that you think this is relevant is a large part of the problem. I know, you're sickened by the fact that it's no longer that way.... but the fact you think it's RELEVANT is the problem.




    Here.... an article..... one of thousands ...... from which folks on both sides of the aisle can draw inferences and support.

    Recognize this?


    https://www.thetrace.org/2019/04/nra...erman-mcqueen/

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    Why one would think training and education is no longer apart is beyond me. All three of my Granddaughters went through our Clubs NRA sponsored youth program. All received various metals and certificates directly from the NRA. As they continued to move up into their individual degrees of shooting abilities from beginner to expert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis.J View Post
    Why one would think training and education is no longer apart is beyond me. All three of my Granddaughters went through our Clubs NRA sponsored youth program. All received various metals and certificates directly from the NRA. As they continued to move up into their individual degrees of shooting abilities from beginner to expert.
    I shared my agreement with someone else and was attacked and insulted for doing it. Now, you're implying that I said something that I didn't. What the Hell?

    Who said training and education wasn't a part of NRA? I didn't.

    The programs like your granddaughter went through used to be cheap and they were used to encourage people to shoot and use firearms properly. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see a lot of hands-on NRA activity at the local levels.
    The programs and dues now are used to bring money into NRA to support huge salaries. Don't get me wrong, they do provide some good things, but most of the work for people like your grandkids is done on the local level by volunteers, or at least it is here.

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    Our Junior program runs from October to April and once weekly. Without the help of the NRA and the CMP the weekly charge of $3.00 a night would not make it possible to have such a program at our club. That $3.00 is to cover the frieght charges only the ammunition is free and none of it goes to the NRA. Our instructors are NRA Certified and who do think provided that education if not the NRA. If you want to complain talk about Biden and Friends who want to take your rights away and not those who are trying to protect them. My NRA membership is less than $40.00 a year including a magazine of my choice. 10 Gallons of Gas now costs me that same $40.00+ so who is ripping off who it surely is not the NRA that is doing it to me. What does it come out too about 11 cents a day and for just one Beer a day it costs me a hell of a lot more and it does not protect we the people's Constitutional rights.

    What you said is on you and it has nothing at all to do with me.
    Last edited by Louis.J; 05-24-2021 at 04:57 PM.

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    The was probably the most well said thing I've read lately!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by alinwa View Post
    dog, i'm with louis...... We the people are failing at our job with we the shooters being as culpable as any.

    Among shooters ("we don't wanna' talk about it") i see that where we are is in part as follows;

    -ignorance of the laws that stand is rampant ("filling out a 4473 is registration", "mailing guns is illegal", .... This list is looong)

    -feel-goodism is everywhere ("we need to make laws to keep the crazies away from guns")

    -simplistic thought is everywhere, absolute denial of our real problem. We're like alcoholics treating symptoms.

    It's worse than you think up here doghunter, not only is society trying to destroy the nra, we the so-called "shooters" are intent on destroying it from within!!!






    The firmer a stance the nra adopts, the closer they hew to our constitution the more resistance they get from within...




    Only one person out of thousands will actually read and understand that which our forebears set up for us and of these people the subset who'll agree with the fathers is again, a fraction..... This, to me is the most terrible crime, the belief that "but, times have changed from muskets" and blahh blahhh blahhh. I've fought this fight in my church environment for years, the idea that "times change and things are different now". Again, it's because people don't actually believe the biblical laws because "that was then, this is now".

    King solomon said "nothing is new under the sun" but every generation has this deep-seated want to be "different".... To be "unique" and somehow "better" but without doing the work, without gaining an understanding of why. The "why" is quite simply mary shelley's 'frankenstein' story being played out ad infinitum. Every generation wants to "mean something"......... Without doing the work.

    This generation, the generation we spawned, is no exception. Unfortunately the generation that spawned us, our fathers gave us 'wayy too good a deal. A deal we've passed on to our kids but basically without making them work for it. In just 4 generations we've driven ourselves down off of "the shining city on the hill" to writhe blindly in the swamp with the other insects......based in gut insecurity we're letting the childish masses have sway.

    And even more blithely, we're giving credence to ignorance. We're rapidly headed back to jollie olde england where this whole cycle has been playing out right in front of us my entire life to the point where now, this day the standard of living is so low, the self-reliance so lost, the 'can-do attitude' so gone that the entire culture spends it's time replaying old monty python bits and smiling glassily into the pint telling themselves "it'll be ok".......someday......
    well said!
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    What is really unfortunate is those who will not pay to keep their own Constitutional rights. Feel their is absolutely nothing wrong with having others paying it for them while they just sit there and continue to Bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave coots View Post
    never forget there are people spreading lies about the nra on the other side. As usual, don't believe everything you read unless verifying for yourself. The nra needs fixed, but it is the best weapon we have.

    Later
    dave
    aman !!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis.J View Post
    Why one would think training and education is no longer apart is beyond me. All three of my Granddaughters went through our Clubs NRA sponsored youth program. All received various metals and certificates directly from the NRA. As they continued to move up into their individual degrees of shooting abilities from beginner to expert.
    I hope you don't put me here because of the way I worded my above post "I know you're sickened by the fact it's no longer this way"..... my meaning is, that while maintaining a presence in schools and communities that will accept them, it's probably no longer their BIGGEST focus simply because We The Sloths have let a generation languish, we've let the academe run the schools instead of us getting involved and telling them what we want for our kids.

    My property is devoted to teaching Hunter Ed, I've an 1800sqft schoolroom and a private but NRA sanctioned range for the kiddo's to hold their range days... and believe you me, if people will step up THE NRA WILL STEP UP! If I was willing and able I could hold classes and shoots here every weekend and NRA would/will step in and help with funding, supplies, literature etc. I'm limited only by MY time schedule, not by a lack of NRA support.

    Unfortunately, they do have to spend a LOT of resources just trying to keep the door open.

    AND...... while I'm not a BLM supporter type so I refuse to jump on the bandwagen of "defund the NRA" like all the leftist shooters out there, I do agree that there is fat to be trimmed.

    TRIMMED I say, throwing the babby out with thee bathwater is not a solution.
    Last edited by alinwa; 05-25-2021 at 12:41 AM.

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    dunno what just happened there.... the second 'code' box is a miss-hit

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    Our Club has applied for and received more than one NRA Grant for Range Improvements that we could have never afforded to do on our own. They offer allot more than one might actually realize if one takes the time to pursue what it is they can actually offer.
    But unfortunately some would rather have you think that they are doing absolutely nothing other than wasting all of their members money.

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    Might also add take a look at the drop down Menu and what is being offered at the NRA Whittington center in New Mexico. Including their Calendar of events being offered to the public.

    https://www.nrawc.org
    NRA Whittington Center
    Last edited by Louis.J; 05-25-2021 at 12:25 PM.

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