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    sorry but poor decision.
    lets start with some basics
    bullets and cases are inert...very stable tho some targets disagree.
    powder is FLAMABLE....NOT AN EXPLOSIVE( READ THE LABEL)
    a primer is an EXPLOSIVE the only real touchy part of reloading.
    but it is an IMPACT explosive. it needs to be hit to fire.
    id you wait 30/60 seconds after pulling the trigger, take the case home pull the bullet, dump/recycle the powder and remove the primer...
    since it is an IMPACT explosive, you need to PUSH it out not bang nor hit it.
    standard reloading die, up one turn or less and most likely it will push out the primer IF you cycle the handle slow and smoothly.
    i have re-used primers that were removed.
    dont be throwing away good brass.
    live and learn

    Quote Originally Posted by nksmfamjp View Post
    Left them at range in the trash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WyleWD View Post
    Of primers were you using, CCI BR4 or 450? And were the primers seated with a slight crush?? WD
    That's the words......good job there....

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    I agree, hate losing the cases. I only have five fingers though, so, Iíll scrap hit brass.

    I checked firing pin protrusion and came up with 0.050Ē - 0.060Ē....I forget now.

    I checked for dirt, grease in the bolt shroud. There was some. I think the Hornady cleaner/lube got it clean and lubed.

    I may have found my issue. By sizing to fit the gun, then neck turning, Iím pretty sure I created poor case fit to the chamber. Using fired brass, I backed it out quite a bit to achieve just enough with a turned neck.

    So, I think I will FL Size with type S SB die, expand on K&M mandrel, trim, neck turn, the FL Size again. That should get things right. The change is in the FL Die setting. It is quite a bit longer, I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nksmfamjp View Post
    I agree, hate losing the cases. I only have five fingers though, so, Iíll scrap hit brass.

    I checked firing pin protrusion and came up with 0.050Ē - 0.060Ē....I forget now.

    I checked for dirt, grease in the bolt shroud. There was some. I think the Hornady cleaner/lube got it clean and lubed.

    I may have found my issue. By sizing to fit the gun, then neck turning, Iím pretty sure I created poor case fit to the chamber. Using fired brass, I backed it out quite a bit to achieve just enough with a turned neck.

    So, I think I will FL Size with type S SB die, expand on K&M mandrel, trim, neck turn, the FL Size again. That should get things right. The change is in the FL Die setting. It is quite a bit longer, I think.
    If that is a Redding SB die. You have about .005" of length to play with. For $50 Redding will polish the rim.
    After about 9-10 shots the shoulder will not be bumped. Polish the base of the die with 600 Emery cloth. Make a figure 8, while sanding.
    Keep measuring the die. Start small. Clean and reassemble the die. Try the brass. Eventually you will have a custom die for that rifle and barrel chamber.
    On mine it took .001". Perfect fit now. Then with new barrels, I got a Harrel die.
    I have tried other dies. But, the brass is happy with that Harrel die.....My reamer might be different than yours.....

    Hope that helps.

    Ya know with all the BR shooters in Ohio, you should be able to hook up with someone. Kelby's can't be too far....

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    To the original poster on this thread

    Quote Originally Posted by zippy06 View Post
    Hope that helps.

    Ya know with all the BR shooters in Ohio, you should be able to hook up with someone. Kelby's can't be too far....
    Just a thought here based on zippy06's great advice and response..... The current NBRSA president, Jack Neary, is instituting a mentor program in benchrest shooting. He's located in northern Ohio and very approachable, and puts on some great shooting classes from time to time. Here's a link to his contact information and more about his mentor program in the NBRSA if you're interested. WD

    https://www.nbrsa.org/mentor-volunteers/

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    Quote Originally Posted by wylewd View Post
    just a thought here based on zippy06's great advice and response..... The current nbrsa president, jack neary, is instituting a mentor program in benchrest shooting. He's located in northern ohio and very approachable, and puts on some great shooting classes from time to time. Here's a link to his contact information and more about his mentor program in the nbrsa if you're interested. Wd

    https://www.nbrsa.org/mentor-volunteers/
    i think a mentor is great but fter 1st group no one should be behindthe firing line with sp[oting scope. Not anyone who is a competor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billbrawand View Post
    i think a mentor is great but fter 1st group no one should be behindthe firing line with sp[oting scope. Not anyone who is a competor.
    for any reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billbrawand View Post
    get yhe one fr 22 hornet and flip the top over loaded rounds and drop emptesin bullet end first
    aso have few 1080 30 jackets left ad 7mm sierra 1 814 335 o450.

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    The NBRSA Mentor program is set up so novice shooters can meet with an experienced Benchrest shooter at a convenient range in order to learn the basics of Benchrest Shooting. This would cover condition reading, bench technique, load development and other such items that will strip away some of the yesteryear surrounding extreme accuracy shooting.

    It has nothing to do with coaching a shooter during a Match.

    I am a Mentor for the Gulf Coast Region, my home range is The Tomball Gun Club.
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    [QUOTE=nksmfamjp;841854]And probably more important what what ammo box do these fit in?[/QUOT2 E]


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    Quote Originally Posted by nksmfamjp View Post
    iím going to try these ammo boxes...

    https://www.amazon.com/caldwell-ammo.../dp/b00rpagoas
    try 22 horrnet they fit perfectly for ppc and br.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billbrawand View Post
    try 22 horrnet they fit perfectly for ppc and br.
    gary thanks for 2 gun good luck to all/

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    I set up my spotting scope behind the firing line at all the matches that I attend.

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    Butch most folks do just that including myself and one can learn allot by doing just that and I too am a competitor myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by butch lambert View Post
    i set up my spotting scope behind the firing line at all the matches that i attend.
    you fellows are missing whats going on. Look harder longer more often you fellows have been around a long time your missing what is happening,

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