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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsmithsr View Post
    and you cut from the inside out, correct ?
    yes

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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by billbrawand View Post
    for everyones ifo a win. 52 b triger can be replaced with a d triger i had mine done.
    sheckengross from by dayton pa. Karl kenyon called me when he dd my 2 ounce trigger said he had never seen that done before in all his yrs.dave bruno of dayton may be able to help anyone find someone to do this.

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    A perfect crown does not do all that much,
    but an imperfect one will really screw up groups.

    A decent amount of the arguing seems to go back
    to finding a simple setup that reliably creates
    'good' crowns each time.

    Unless you are mass crowning rifle barrels, few can
    afford to have lathes dedicated to a single function.

    The Shilens of the world have that advantage.

    The rest of use set up each time we need to crown a barrel.
    and this is when simple starts showing its advantage.

    In 'one off' machine work setup time is what eats your money.

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    I have a set of piloted cutters

    that will cut a decent crown but having a lathe, I don't use them. I have used them in the past and they work fine, or seem to at least.

    Pete

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    cut a crown, or face the muzzle ??
    i still say it is 2 different things, that MAY be done at the same time
    not my style
    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Wass View Post
    that will cut a decent crown but having a lathe, I don't use them. I have used them in the past and they work fine, or seem to at least.

    Pete

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    Ya puts in ya money

    Quote Originally Posted by rsmithsr View Post
    cut a crown, or face the muzzle ??
    i still say it is 2 different things, that MAY be done at the same time
    not my style
    and ya takes your chances.

    Pete

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    Pete they do make them to serve a useful purpose and not everyone owns a lathe or shoots a competitive rifle. It is a bit unrealistic to believe that if a fellow brings his rifle into his local gunsmith to have it re-crowned. That the gunsmith is actually going to pull the barrel, set it up in a lathe, dial it in, re-crown it and then put it all back together.

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    why is that unrealistic ???
    the rifle is $4000 f class champion rifle//
    see your statement has no rules / limits.
    if a person brings in a rack grade mosin nagant..the hand crowning tool is perfect( it is close to impossible to remove those bbls).
    your open ended catch all is just out of context,


    Quote Originally Posted by Louis.J View Post
    Pete they do make them to serve a useful purpose and not everyone owns a lathe or shoots a competitive rifle. It is a bit unrealistic to believe that if a fellow brings his rifle into his local gunsmith to have it re-crowned. That the gunsmith is actually going to pull the barrel, set it up in a lathe, dial it in, re-crown it and then put it all back together.

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    Go back and re-read not everyone shoots a competitive rifle!
    As far as that goes not all local gunsmiths even build such rifles and the crowning tool he was talking about would serve them a useful purpose.
    Myself I am a competitive shooter and my way of crowning my own and why is shown and described with a picture in an earlier post. And it was dialed in and done on a lathe with one set up and two machining procedures. The polishing is not included it is a totally separate procedure.
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    Last edited by Louis.J; 03-30-2021 at 10:09 AM.

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    please note that NO WHERE IN YOUR STATEMENT do you limit this to non-precision rifles.
    your inability to see the error of your statement is your issue not mine,
    i simply pointed it out.
    we are on a BEMCHREST site,
    on the GUNSMITH forum.
    not your local sporting goods store where rifle repairs maybe made.

    Quote Originally Posted by Louis.J View Post
    Pete they do make them to serve a useful purpose and not everyone owns a lathe or shoots a competitive rifle. It is a bit unrealistic to believe that if a fellow brings his rifle into his local gunsmith to have it re-crowned. That the gunsmith is actually going to pull the barrel, set it up in a lathe, dial it in, re-crown it and then put it all back together.

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    We are in the Gunsmithing section and not everything here is benchrest and precision competitive related. I guess you just can't get past your own ego and just have to prove that it is only you who is alway right by having to get your own last word into the conversation. Others here new exactly what I was referring too including the OP and it was really not that hard to understand.

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