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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by coyotechet View Post
    How many do you need? I just like to pick up a tool as needed and start cutting.
    Chet

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    Love that mini Ma Deuce!

    GsT

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    I like the setup with a shelf for tool holders right there... Nice !

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    I really need to organize my space.

    Quote Originally Posted by coyotechet View Post
    How many do you need? I just like to pick up a tool as needed and start cutting.
    Chet

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    A setup similar to this would work very nicely in my lathe space, very well designed and practical. Thanks for posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alinwa View Post
    15 maybe

    Just chambering a rifle I use 8
    What are you using 8 holders for on a manual lathe? I only used three, turning, threadding and boring. Drilling and reaming were done in the tailstock. I do use nine positions on my CNC turret, but that includes a drilling station, reaming station, three boring bars and grooving tool for the higbee thread. I could reduce the boring bars down to one, and rough/finish with the VBMT if I really wanted to.
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    it is actually pretty simple.
    not everyone does a job the same way.
    i like lots of tools used for a specific job, not a close enough generic.
    so 3 will never work for me.
    you do it your way, the rest of us will do it our way.....more tool holders.
    no i am not taking lessons from you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rubicon Prec. View Post
    What are you using 8 holders for on a manual lathe? I only used three, turning, threadding and boring. Drilling and reaming were done in the tailstock. I do use nine positions on my CNC turret, but that includes a drilling station, reaming station, three boring bars and grooving tool for the higbee thread. I could reduce the boring bars down to one, and rough/finish with the VBMT if I really wanted to.

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    I have 9 and could use more. I haven't figured out how one turning tool or boring bar will do all my work. What about my Knurler, parting tool, and others?

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    and if you have a small hole boring tool..it is too small for a med or bigger hole...too flexible.
    basic tools are right and left cut, that doubles most numbers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Butch Lambert View Post
    I have 9 and could use more. I haven't figured out how one turning tool or boring bar will do all my work. What about my Knurler, parting tool, and others?

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    Yes sir, but we may have LEFT handers on here only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retired View Post
    it is actually pretty simple.
    not everyone does a job the same way.
    i like lots of tools used for a specific job, not a close enough generic.
    so 3 will never work for me.
    you do it your way, the rest of us will do it our way.....more tool holders.
    no i am not taking lessons from you.
    I wasn't putting anyone down, I was asking a question.

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    Naw...you clearly made a statement on how you did things.

    a question would not need a statement on how you did things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rubicon Prec. View Post
    I wasn't putting anyone down, I was asking a question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retired View Post
    Naw...you clearly made a statement on how you did things.

    a question would not need a statement on how you did things.
    Well, how's this for a question: how do you use eight tool holders to fit a barrel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubicon Prec. View Post
    What are you using 8 holders for on a manual lathe? I only used three, turning, threadding and boring. Drilling and reaming were done in the tailstock. I do use nine positions on my CNC turret, but that includes a drilling station, reaming station, three boring bars and grooving tool for the higbee thread. I could reduce the boring bars down to one, and rough/finish with the VBMT if I really wanted to.
    Sooo, I probably have more like 15 just for chambering because I do Panda's differently than Rem700 or flat-backed Atlas/Savage types....but I'll try do a Rem700 in my head. (I may get some steps out of order...)

    First of all, I consider some things vitally important, that NO ONE ELSE cares about For instance timing or indexing to certain clock positions within just a few degrees, and using aftermarket recoil lugs that are as close to interference fit as is humanly possible. (I've thought about heat-setting them, but never have..... now THAT would be a pita BUT....again. I'm not typical NOR sane in my methods)

    First bit, carbide to hog off the tenon and whack to within a few thou of depth/length. Rough-in

    Second bit, sharp HSS....I sneak up on tenon diameter veeerry slowly, I want that recoil lug to be pressed on.

    At this point I'll probably th'ow another parallel cutter on to turn the threaded portion a little smaller than the recoil lug seat. But I won't count that one.

    Third is a threading bit and I use a chickenout groove so,

    Fourth is a little cleanup bit for making the groove look perty...

    Fifth a 50-ish degree bit marked "NOT FOR THREADING!" It looks like a 1/2X1/2 threading bit, this is my indexing bit for cutting a perfect, square-cornered seat. With this bit I sneak up to my index point.

    Sixth I trim the tenon to length after indexing and for this use a HSS bit kinda' like my crowning grind...... but I may well throw a carbide on if I need to hogg some length off. Basically if timing makes more than .005-.010 I'll hog it then trim to final with HSS

    Seventh is a 85* boring bar I use to cut in the boltface recess.

    Eighth is my chamber boring bar

    And then I may well use 3 or 4 more chamfering/edge softening grinds to knock off all the corners......

    And I prolly missed a step or two.

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    Need to ad the facing cutter and a crown cutter for the muzzle end too. Plus all the other cutters for other jobs. I probably have 20 different holder setups, including one for an indicator.

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