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Thread: Tubal 3000 gone BAD!

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    Tubal 3000 gone BAD!

    Almost 5 years ago I asked about Tubal 3000 as i bought an 8# jug cheap. I shot some in my 223 and 6 BR and it shot well. A few mentioned there were reports of this powder going bad, even accused of a house fire. I haven't shot any in 2-3 years. Today I got the jug out and noted a slightly sticky liquid running down the jug. Cautiously, I opened the jug and reddish fumes came out...very acrid! I shone a light into the jug and noted the powder was reddish in color. I poured some into a plastic bowl and it had a red tint, but in just a very few seconds, the color faded to the grayish color of normal powder. I had 1/2# in an old Vhitavouri 1# container and it was the same as the Noble jug. I will not trust this propellent as a chemical /physical reaction has taken place and who knows what burn characteristics have changed. Has Noble been aware of this powder's behavior? Has there been a recall or warning? I did a search re Tubal 3000 and there were stories similar to mine! I have some N 135 that is 17 years old and it smells great and shoots likewise. All my powders are in the same room and none have gone bad, till now. Observation/comments appreciated.

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    What material is the container and lid ?

    Newer plastic jugs with plastic lids...seldom see bad powder.

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    Original jug and lid. The 1/2# was in a more recent Vhitavouri container. I smell checked other powders adjacent to the Tubal 3000 and they are good. I will iventory/ smell all containers soon.

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    Recently I had a couple pounds of IMR 7828 go bad. 2 or 3 rounds shot with it were ok, but I ended up sprinkling it on the lawn for fertilizer.

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    I have never had a problem with powder going bad but if a powder looks or smells bad I would not use it. I would quickly destroy it. There is no use taking chances with gun powder.

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    I had some 20 TAC and 223 AI rounds loaded with this powder. I pulled all. The powder kernals were stuck to the inside of cases and was difficult to remove. The case was greenish but bullet base was not corroded. Dumped powder did not smell like jug powder. Don't think I'll buy any current Tubal powders...

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    powder

    I remember when I was a kid my dad had some IMR powder, don't remember the number, that had a red dust in it. He called it rusted. Metal can and lid. Don't remember how it shot but he probably tried it. You didn't throw nothing away. It was shot at coyotes so if it was an inch at a 100 that was good. Doug

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