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    Did you do anything to stabilize the hanger or just avoid it by bedding the forend to the barrel ?
    Anything to the hammer in the way of better lock time? Lightening etc?

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    None of the above. It shot so well when I test fired it that I haven't touched anything. If it shoots as well when I get it back, I still won't mess with it. If it doesn't shoot, then I will do one thing at a time till it does. My past experience with No. 1's is that the fore end up pressure on the barrel, when adjusted, will change how it shoots. When it comes back I will shoot it every chance I get till I'm satisfied. FWIW the fore end is bedded very tightly to the barrel now. ?????? Hope that's good.

    Thank Gawd, I have a good 50 and 100 yd. range just outside my office door... This is Michigan so I will have to wait for nice days. This winter has been mild enough for me to be optimistic re: weather.

    I think I have everything I need to load, clean, etc. except a custom FL size die. Neil Jones will make me what I want as soon as I give him numbers... Now if I could only find my ball mike. I bought 100 Lapua Match cases some time ago.

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    I have always regarded the safety on No. 1's as being an unsightly lump. I got a spare for this gun and ground and filed it down to a more pleasing shape. Then I had it checkered 40 LPI. The edges need rounding off but it's, otherwise, done. I like this a lot better. I asked Charlie to round of the sharp edges before he blues it.
    Last edited by Dick Wright; 02-10-2017 at 07:32 AM.

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    Whilst I wait for the gun to come back, I am collecting everything I need to load, shoot and clean it. I bought 100 Lapua match cases. I am moly coating any .22 BR bullets that I might want to shoot. This gun has a factory chamber with a minimum factory neck. I will neck turn it only enough to clean up any run out in the case neck thickness which, in my experience, is very little with Lapua brass, probably only a few tenths. After I do that and have the numbers I will get a FL size die from Neil Jones. Neil also made me a cleaning rod guide, something a little tricky for a No. 1. My only hold-up so far is I couldn't find my ball mike in this mess... no problem, I borrowed one from a friend.

    The first match is late April, only a little over two months away, so I need to start shooting it as soon as it comes back and weather allows. (Thank Gawd for my 50 and 100 yd. range just outside my office door.) Right now I am praying vigorously that it still shoots the way it did last summer when I test fired it. I have enough IMR 4895 (first choice) and Isreali 2015 (only made in 1990 and 1991) to last me for a while when I decide which one shoots best.

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    My loading bench is inside my office and only a few feet from my range and shooting bench which are just outside the office door.

    I am neck-turning the brass just enough to eliminate any run-out in neck wall thickness. (Factory chamber.)

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    This is the gun exactly as I sent it out for rust bluing and checkering. (Minus the scope.)

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    Dick..if you will, don't turn the necks on a few cases and let us know how they stack up against the turned cases.

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    I can do that. I have about a doz. cases that aren't turned. Although I can't imagine how not turning them would help. We do so much to insure that the bullet is looking straight down the barrel...

    There was considerably less than a thousandth runout in the neck wall thickness of the Lapua Match cases and I miked them all. I just cleaned them up. A while back I sold my neck turning machine to Richard Watson so I did it by hand. Been a long time since I did that.

    I just heard from Charlie who is working on the gun. He promised me some pictures of his progress. I'm hoping I get it back in March which should give me enough time to get it shooting as well as possible before our first match. I'll probably post the pics I get.

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    I'm not asking you to do this to see if the unturned cases shoot better but rather if they shoot as good. We've turned cases for a long time and I'm curious if it's necessary.

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    Dick,

    I think I may have said it before but that is going to be one great looking rifle when it arrives back at the Wright's house! It will be a hoot to see you shoot tiny groups and great scores with it! I will have to take a few photos at the first match and share on here.

    Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilbur View Post
    I'm not asking you to do this to see if the unturned cases shoot better but rather if they shoot as good. We've turned cases for a long time and I'm curious if it's necessary.
    Wilbur,

    I think if they shoot as well, there would be something I am doing wrong. The only reason we have tight necks and turn cases is to insure that the bullet is pointing straight down the barrel, ie: the axis of the bullet is exactly concentric with the axis of the bore. If it's not, the bullet is going to be starting down the bore a tad cockeyed and will almost certainly be slightly wobbly when it leaves the barrel... that can't be good.

    I've scored a gazillian BR targets and I can tell how well a rifle is set-up by the size of the bullet hole. You should be able to stick a scoring plug in a (one bullet) hole and it should be tight enough to lift the paper. A gun with cartridges that have runout between case and bullets will have bigger holes in the target... in some cases even a bit egg shaped. You gotta throw perfect spirals. That's why I like to shoot the bullets loaded to a hard jam. My theory is that cramming the bullet into the lands will have a tendency to hold them pointing straighter down the bore if they weren't loaded super straight to start with. This pre-supposes brass, fired at least three times, that really fits your chamber.

    Dick
    Last edited by Dick Wright; 02-27-2017 at 07:33 AM.

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    I will explain why I had Kip chamber the gun with a minimum factory chamber... If I were going to keep it forever, I would have had Dwight chamber it with a tight-neck BR chamber. (See above.) However, at my age, if something happens to me some relative would get the gun, none of whom have a clue re: tight-necks, etc. Since I don't want the son blowing himself up with factory ammo crammed into a tight chamber, I went factory but with the smallest neck that is within SAAMI specs.

    As close as I can tell, after miking fired rounds, the brass neck will expand about .004" when fired rather than the .001" I like in a bench gun. This will mean shorter case life as the brass work hardens and, eventually, cracks from shooting. That's one reason for the Match Lapua which, to me, is the best brass I can get.
    Last edited by Dick Wright; 02-28-2017 at 07:41 AM.

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    Well...if you're thinking is like that, there's no way the unturned cases will shoot as well as those turned.

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    Yeah... that's my thinking. Ya gotta ask yourself... we don't use tight chambers and turn the brass jist cause we like to neck turn.

    However, I've been wrong so many times...

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    Very nice craftsmanship. Something about a well done #1 makes me smile.... -Al

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