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    VFS gun weight limits?

    In trying to get the best scope rings for the used 30BR gun I bought I'm running into some questions I can't answer.

    Is there a weight limit for guns used in score shooting? The NBRSA rules that I read on-line say that all varmint guns shoot in one class. This seems to imply that so long as I don't exceed the limit for a HV gun that I'll be okay. This gun with the combo rings, Leupold 45X Competition scope with the lens caps removed weighs 10 lbs 6.48 oz. Now this is on a digital package scale I bought from Northern Tool for $39.99. The closest thing to calibrated weights I have is a set of NRA trigger weights that total 4 1/2 lbs. And they show the scale weighing a tad light.

    So, 4 screw rings would increase the weight even more. Maybe all this doesn't matter as I'm doing all this shooting for fun anyway. But, should lightning strike and I win something substantial I'd like to be legal.

    Thoughts anyone?

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    You're right.....

    Quote Originally Posted by adamsgt View Post
    In trying to get the best scope rings for the used 30BR gun I bought I'm running into some questions I can't answer.

    Is there a weight limit for guns used in score shooting? The NBRSA rules that I read on-line say that all varmint guns shoot in one class. This seems to imply that so long as I don't exceed the limit for a HV gun that I'll be okay. This gun with the combo rings, Leupold 45X Competition scope with the lens caps removed weighs 10 lbs 6.48 oz. Now this is on a digital package scale I bought from Northern Tool for $39.99. The closest thing to calibrated weights I have is a set of NRA trigger weights that total 4 1/2 lbs. And they show the scale weighing a tad light.

    So, 4 screw rings would increase the weight even more. Maybe all this doesn't matter as I'm doing all this shooting for fun anyway. But, should lightning strike and I win something substantial I'd like to be legal.

    Thoughts anyone?
    You're right in your assumption that HV (13.5lb) rifles, are legal in VFS. That's the way it stands now and I don't see this changing. I love this rule since it allows a lot more players in VFS.

    Virg

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    Quote Originally Posted by virg View Post
    You're right in your assumption that HV (13.5lb) rifles, are legal in VFS. That's the way it stands now and I don't see this changing. I love this rule since it allows a lot more players in VFS.

    Virg
    Thanks Virg. Now let me rephrase your statement. If I have a gun that is slightly overweight as a LV it becomes a grossly underweight HV gun which is also legal. You're right, that's a lovely rule. So, onto 4 screw rings.

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    3 lbs is a lot to leave on the table...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SGJennings View Post
    3 lbs is a lot to leave on the table...
    I agree, but this gun is ready to shoot now. It might be a little pushy without that weight but I'm stout myself. My HV gun is a BAT action with a PPC boltface. If I like the score shooting enough I'll get the boltface opened up, a new extractor and a new barrel. Just got a new Bartlein .30 w/1-17 twist waiting in the wings. I've got a couple of new PPC barrels and I could put one of them on the current 30 BR if I use the HV as a new 30 BR. Lots of possibilities here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamsgt View Post
    I agree, but this gun is ready to shoot now. It might be a little pushy without that weight but I'm stout myself. My HV gun is a BAT action with a PPC boltface. If I like the score shooting enough I'll get the boltface opened up, a new extractor and a new barrel. Just got a new Bartlein .30 w/1-17 twist waiting in the wings. I've got a couple of new PPC barrels and I could put one of them on the current 30 BR if I use the HV as a new 30 BR. Lots of possibilities here.
    My two cents are to buy some Lapua 6.5 Grendel brass(ppc boltface), neck it up and turn for a .330 chamber, get a set of dies, and shoot it in you hv Bat. It's simple, it works and is basically what Mike Stinnett shot the new world record small group with.---Mike Ezell

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    Thank you Mike

    Quote Originally Posted by mwezell View Post
    My two cents are to buy some Lapua 6.5 Grendel brass(ppc boltface), neck it up and turn for a .330 chamber, get a set of dies, and shoot it in you hv Bat. It's simple, it works and is basically what Mike Stinnett shot the new world record small group with.---Mike Ezell
    that's an excellent thought. Guess I didn't consider anything else because I have 5 boxes of Lapua 6 BR brass now. But that would eliminate messing with the bolt of the Bat, which is a good thing.
    Just checked on the 6.5 Grendel brass on Powder Valley and it is available even though it's a little pricey. But brass seems not as scarce as powder and bullets.
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    The Alexander Arms brass is made by Lapua and is sometimes much less expensive.

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    question

    Are you going to add weight to the stock?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerfire View Post
    Are you going to add weight to the stock?
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    He was happy with this thread. Don't get it any messier........

    Y'all in Texas VFS matches weigh rifles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zippy06 View Post
    woow.
    He was happy with this thread. Don't get it any messier........

    Y'all in Texas VFS matches weigh rifles?
    I've only shot in one club match so far and nobody had a scale. I've got some lead ingots and duct tape so I could add some weight to the stock.

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    Rifles are weighed at the registered VFS matches in Texas.

    joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by SGJennings View Post
    The Alexander Arms brass is made by Lapua and is sometimes much less expensive.
    The Alexander Arms web site says the brass they sell is made by Hornady and sells for $66.00 a hundred. The Lapua Grendel brass is $89.73 per hundred at Powder Valley. Read a couple of buyers comments on the brass on the AA web site. One negative was deformed case mouths and the other was that the flash holes were not the small ones as on the Lapua and 6 PPC brass. That's the .060 I think. I'm assuming that AA specd the flash hole size with Hornady but I'm curious as to why the Lapua would be different if they were first before Hornady. Oh well, another mystery of life.
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    I didnt think it was made by lapua. seemed way off. only thing lapua makes that dont say lapua is NT stamped brass and SK rimfire ammo as far as I know. Nammo Tactical is the parent company and I use their 338LM brass

    http://www.nammo.com/civilianproducts1/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerfire View Post
    Are you going to add weight to the stock?
    Centerfire
    Took me a bit to remember but the thought was clear when I woke up this morning. Shelley Davidson made his 30BR "Tinker Toy" so it would shoot in the LV class. I shot with him several times at Denton and the gun's recoil was moderate and the performance outstanding. So, I'm not going to worry about the weight until the guns performance tells me I should.

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