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Thread: We Haven't Had A Good Car Thread In A While...........My '67 Chevelle

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmort View Post
    Al
    The laptop thing is really cool, but if you need a backup system I can send you one of my files for dressing points.....I'm always here to help.

    Mort

    Chuckle chuckle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Nyhus View Post
    Yesterday's project on a pals supercharged Cobra Jet drag car:

    Out with the Roush engine:


    In with the B.E.S. engine:


    Full disclosure...it wasn't exactly 'out and in'. These car are extremely complex and downright hard-azz difficult to work on. The good thing about them is once their up and running, you don't really do any work on 'em except with the laptop.
    Al, I have been toying with the idea of the new LT-5. They are available now with supporting hardware.

    The problem I am finding out is just getting the darn thing in a car. It seems everything on one interferes with something in a GM A Body.

    I have Nickens looking into what it would take. The engine in the crate is $17000, probably another $15,000 to get it in and actually crank.

    The idea of a supercharged 750 Hp 720 lbft of torque is rather appealing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie schmidt View Post
    Al, I have been toying with the idea of the new LT-5. They are available now with supporting hardware.

    The problem I am finding out is just getting the darn thing in a car. It seems everything on one interferes with something in a GM A Body.

    I have Nickens looking into what it would take. The engine in the crate is $17000, probably another $15,000 to get it in and actually crank.

    The idea of a supercharged 750 Hp 720 lbft of torque is rather appealing.
    if them front wheels don't come up........ you need more torque

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie schmidt View Post
    Al, I have been toying with the idea of the new LT-5. They are available now with supporting hardware. The problem I am finding out is just getting the darn thing in a car. It seems everything on one interferes with something in a GM A Body. I have Nickens looking into what it would take. The engine in the crate is $17000, probably another $15,000 to get it in and actually crank. The idea of a supercharged 750 Hp 720 lbft of torque is rather appealing.
    Jackie, the LT5 in your Chevelle is a ambitious project, but one that deserves to be done. You may want to look into the aftermarket frames that give you some more room up there.

    On this Cobra Jet, the chassis work was done by East Texas Race Cars (Vic Custer) in Nacogdoches, Texas. The engine was mounted to the front subframe, the headers built and then the entire subframe and engine was raised up from below. Coming out from above with the kicked out oil pan, around the steering shaft, etc. is a real challenge.

    We got the new piece in yesterday but not without some hiccups. I made some new dowel pins on the lathe from .625 o.d., .083 wall chrome moly tubing to extend through the mid plate that sandwiches between the block and the trans, while car owner Bob reworked the front of the left side of the block to accept the drivers side motor plate. There are some subtle differences between engines but all in all, the new piece will be a cleaner deal....plus it makes 200 h.p. more than the Roush engine. In the bottom photo, you can see that the new engine has the Holley individual coil-on-plug deal. A wiring harness needs to be done to trigger the coils from the existing E.C.U.

    You can get a good idea of the physical size of the engine from these pics. 10 lbs. of $h!t in a 5 lbs sack, as my Dad used to say!



    Last edited by Al Nyhus; 11-19-2019 at 09:47 AM.

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    Modified Pan

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    Was that pan done inhouse or farmed out?....Looks pretty neat.

    Mort

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Nyhus View Post
    Jackie, the LT5 in your Chevelle is a ambitious project, but one that deserves to be done. You may want to look into the aftermarket frames that give you some more room up there.

    On this Cobra Jet, the chassis work was done by East Texas Race Cars (Vic Custer) in Nacogdoches, Texas. The engine was mounted to the front subframe, the headers built and then the entire subframe and engine was raised up from below. Coming out from above with the kicked out oil pan, around the steering shaft, etc. is a real challenge.

    We got the new piece in yesterday but not without some hiccups. I made some new dowel pins on the lathe from .625 o.d., .083 wall chrome moly tubing to extend through the mid plate that sandwiches between the block and the trans, while car owner Bob reworked the front of the left side of the block to accept the drivers side motor plate. There are some subtle differences between engines but all in all, the new piece will be a cleaner deal....plus it makes 200 h.p. more than the Roush engine. In the bottom photo, you can see that the new engine has the Holley individual coil-on-plug deal. A wiring harness needs to be done to trigger the coils from the existing E.C.U.

    You can get a good idea of the physical size of the engine from these pics. 10 lbs. of $h!t in a 5 lbs sack, as my Dad used to say!



    Al, there are a multitude of custom frames out now, some feature a 9 inch Ford on a 4 link similar to a A body, others a more conventional 4 link with a padard bar. They use rack and pinion steering.

    Here is one by Art Morrison

    https://www.artmorrison.com/chevelle.php

    I think I would be looking at a $60;000 project.
    Last edited by jackie schmidt; 11-20-2019 at 06:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie schmidt View Post
    Al, there are a multitude of custom frames out now, some feature a 9 inch Ford on a 4 link similar to a A body, others a more conventional 4 link with a padard bar. They use rack and pinion steering. Here is one by Art Morrison

    https://www.artmorrison.com/chevelle.php

    I think I would be looking at a $60;000 project.
    One thing about the new breed of engines...given the efficiency of their heads, they can use quite a bit milder cams with some big departures on lobe separation angles, etc. Bottom line...they just don't have that sound that the early engines have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmort View Post
    Al, Was that pan done inhouse or farmed out?....Looks pretty neat. Mort
    It works well, to. It's an 'undocumented' pan that came from the Ford Motorsports backdoor program where there might be some connections. The one issue is that it requires the trans to come out before the engine is removed.

    The pan on the new engine is a Stef's. It fits the chassis better.

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    Looking at all these pictures, the first thing that comes to mind is: $peed cost$ money, how fa$t do you want to go?
    But then again, sure beats sitting in a bar with nothing to show for your efforts but a hurt head.

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