Redding Body Die Question
Reloading for factory savage. Only been neck sizing and they are getting tight in chamber. Got these body dies and am wondering if I need to neck size first or use the body die first then neck size.
i think i would
trim to length
That's how I'm doin it unless I hear a reason to do it different.
If what you are doing is working, then keep on doin' it.
For some cartridges, the body die will squeeze the body enough to cause the shoulder to squish forward a little making it difficult to chamber the cartridge. Then you'll need a bump die too. It sometimes takes a real balancing act to get the three dies working together. Maybe we need a study and some tests to determine the best way?
I spent about a half hour trying to determine how far I was setting the shoulder back when using the Body die the other day. It's no wonder I coulden't figure it out . It's not moving.
My suggestion is to use a Redding 'Type S' f.l. bushing die. One pass and you size the neck, f.l. size the body, bump the shoulder back and decap. Plus, you'll have more flexibility in tuning by being able to change neck tension with different bushings.
Originally Posted by kdvarmint
Good shootin'. -Al
I use a FL die on all rifle handloads, because I like to resize the neck, bump the shoulder, and uniform the tapered body while the case is fully supported. This is easily done with one die (and in one operation) if you can accurately set the die height for your particular chamber. Look into the Digital Headspace Gauge. That helps adjust your die height within a thousandth of an inch, and it doesn't require special bushings or attachments.
Since you are using Redding.............
dies, you might find their Competition shellholder sets to be a useful addition to your equipment.
One of the techs there can help you with set-up, sometimes instructions may be a little vague.
The body die from Redding can also push the shoudler back - woirks great. I use the tools from Hornady to get both the seating depth and the distance to the shoulder.
I agree . I don't know what some others are refering too. The Rediing body die is designed to bump the shoulder . If it can't then something is not matched right . God this auto save is a nuisance .
Originally Posted by Travelor
I notice that Innovative Technologies makes a digital headspace gauge which looks like it just might work. Thanks for the tip.
Originally Posted by Larry Willis
I've provided the URL since you didn't in your post. Thank you Mr. Google.
Last edited by ehparis; 06-14-2012 at 04:13 PM.
Like Al I've gone to FL sizing nearly all my rifle loads with Redding bushing FL dies, even for factory chambers. Unless a chamber is terribly oversized case life won't be reduced if the die is properly adjusted. Get a bump gauge and measure fired cases then bump the shoulder back 0.002".
I've got some body dies and although they work (sort of in my experience) buying a Redding bushing FL die solves all the problems at once. You size the body so that the cases will easily chamber, and the necks just the amount that's needed. There's nothing more fun than trying to chamber a too tight case, especially when your out in the field without a rod to knock the stuck round out of the chamber.
Accuracy won't be decreased in my experience either, in fact it might improve.
That's the way I do it too. All in one pass, with one die, and ... with the option of using different bushings. And with one die, it's also less expensive.
Originally Posted by Al Nyhus
Pay attention to Al and Larry. The Redding "S" type full length die with the proper bushing is the answer. If you like, you may send Redding three brass fired in your chamber and presto, you have a perfect custom die for your rifle.
Originally Posted by kdvarmint
I prefer to use "Full length" Redding S-Type (bushing) dies whenever possible. Try using the Digital Headspace Gauge to adjust the height of your FL die (withing a thousandth of an inch), and presto -ALL of your FL dies fit your chambers like custom sizing dies.