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    The idea of the ACLU was a good one before it was taken over by socialists who use it to push their agenda by way of the courts.
    It isn't their mission to help any cause that is so loony no lawer will take the case, its to help those who are to poor to get good representation, with clients like NAMBLA and fringe environmentalists groups as clients what should we think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koginam View Post
    The idea of the ACLU was a good one before it was taken over by socialists who use it to push their agenda by way of the courts.
    It isn't their mission to help any cause that is so loony no lawer will take the case, its to help those who are to poor to get good representation, with clients like NAMBLA and fringe environmentalists groups as clients what should we think.
    We should think that the best way to protect our right to a fair trial is to give it to the lowest scum we find on earth!

    Don't you think ACLU lawyers have children too! Do you think they are pro NAMBLA or Pro Neo Nazi or what ever? Of course not! They have to hold their noses to protect our rights to a fair trial! We can't just give those rights to those who we think deserve them! Isn't that also part of the issue in QITMO? What if innocent men have been held for over five years with no charges? Will their sons be the next terrorist bombers because of what was done to their innocent fathers by the U.S.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinny View Post
    I'd be happy to do it!
    vinny
    And this from a New Yorker named Vinny who hangs out on a benchrest board.
    Perhaps Mister Barr should be worried.

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    Thumbs down

    Has the ACLU ever defended a gun rights case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Fielder View Post
    Anyone who is think of voting for Barr might as well vote for Obama and make it less painful for the rest of us.

    I don't mind losing the potus w/ our E/C system in places say 51%-49% but when someone gets elected not even close to 50% magority, it is just wrong.

    I think we need a run off if the 3rd party becomes a standard.....I think clinton won it with just 43% thanks to the little man.


    pf
    I'd vote for O'bama. If he would give me absolution for what my great, great, great grandaddy might or might not have done to some black people. Basically for being white. I think this is why most white folks want to vote for O'bama.

    Why not vote for Barr? If you think McCain has the slightest chance in He!! to win, I got a bridge for sale I would like to show you.

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    We will get Obama....

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Al View Post
    I'd vote for O'bama. If he would give me absolution for what my great, great, great grandaddy might or might not have done to some black people. Basically for being white. I think this is why most white folks want to vote for O'bama.

    Why not vote for Barr? If you think McCain has the slightest chance in He!! to win, I got a bridge for sale I would like to show you.
    .....because of the Barr votes if he runs. If Barr stays out of it & it's just a two man race, I got $100 bill that says JM will win.

    pf

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    They should put a warning label on this upcoming election, "This election could cause your beer/scotch consumption to go up". As usual, I'm not voting for somebody, I voting against somebody. I don't like either one of them but I am voting for McCain against Obama. I think the last time I voted FOR somebody was Reagan !

    Best,
    Dan Batko

    "Where are we going and why am I in this basket?"

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    I'd vote for O'bama. If he would give me absolution for what my great, great, great grandaddy might or might not have done to some black people.
    Well, I had families on both sides... Do I get consideration for the family members who fought and died for the North?

    http://www.bogardus.com/resources/civil_war.htm

    http://www.bogardus.com/resources/lt...c_bogardus.htm

    As it is, we have a finite pool of votes (at least in most places... Chicago, St. Louis, and some other cities have been known to register zombies...).

    Say you're in an area with 100 voters. And if they're split

    49 Obama
    49 McCain
    2 Fringe and Barking Moonbat Territory

    the Democrats want people who would ordinarily vote to stay home...

    49 Obama
    48 McCain
    2 Fringe and Barking Moonbat Territory
    1 Lazy Bum who will bitch endlessly about the results of an election he didn't vote in

    The focus of their media campaign (and this campaign has been multiplatform - not just the evening news, but also internet blogs, forums, etc.) for the past seven and a half years is that "Republicans are Bad." Their goal isn't to get you to vote for them. Obama-Girl is just a by-product of white guilt and rock-star politics. Their goal is to get you to vote for "anyone but a republican" or to just stay home. That's -all- they need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. D View Post
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    What is misunderstood about the ACLU is itís mission!

    If what you wrote is true, then why won't they take 2nd Amendment cases?

    Here's a clue: As opposed to the other nine of the first Ten Amendments, the 2nd Amendment is the only one the ACLU thinks is not an individual right!

    (See minority opinion in Supreme Court, Heller v. Washington, D.C.)

    I don't mind anyone taking on unpopular causes, but many times 2nd Amendment cases are as unpopular as they get.

    Dennis

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    The first president of the ACLU did an interview just before his death, in which he stated that the ACLU was a Communist/Socialist organization whose mandated was to use the freedoms of the constitution against itself to destroy it. This interview was shown twice during the 1980's and then was purchased and thrown in a safe. Anyone who supports the ACLU supports the destruction of the constitution of this country....period.

    Hovis

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    Quote Originally Posted by HovisKM View Post
    The first president of the ACLU did an interview just before his death, in which he stated that the ACLU was a Communist/Socialist organization whose mandated was to use the freedoms of the constitution against itself to destroy it. This interview was shown twice during the 1980's and then was purchased and thrown in a safe. Anyone who supports the ACLU supports the destruction of the constitution of this country....period.

    Hovis

    You forget that communism did not have the negatives it has now. Many, many good patriotic Americans looked at communism and socialism as an answer during the Robber Baron Period and the Great Depression. Things were not working well with capitalism!!! Looking back now to 1890 you have 20/20 hindsight those people did not. Guess what? Many parts of the best governments in the world including the U.S. have elements of socialism.

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    I certainly don't like the issues the ACLU gets its mainstream media headlines about but the ACLU is no more nor more less Communist than the Democaratic party has been since the Woodrow Wilson era, nor is it more nor less Communist than the Repubilcan Party has become since the NeoCons took over.

    As to Bob Barr and the ACLU read the following for starters;
    http://www.reason.com/news/show/28960.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by pendennis View Post
    If what you wrote is true, then why won't they take 2nd Amendment cases?

    Here's a clue: As opposed to the other nine of the first Ten Amendments, the 2nd Amendment is the only one the ACLU thinks is not an individual right!

    (See minority opinion in Supreme Court, Heller v. Washington, D.C.)

    I don't mind anyone taking on unpopular causes, but many times 2nd Amendment cases are as unpopular as they get.

    Dennis
    Do you have any proof of that belief? You may be right as many historians do not believe it was intended to be an individual right based on the writings and culture of the times. For one thing the 2nd Amendment "individual' right was not honored in many of the cities the Founders lived in! The right to bear a firearm in public was not allowed in many cities. Also I believe many historians would tell you that the issue of not allowing the average man to keep and bear a firearm never was even considered as a real possibility in the 1780's. Common sense should tell anyone that.

    Having said that, I wish the Founding Fathers had made it completely crystal clear that the 2nd Amendment had nothing to do with protecting the state militias from being disarmed by the Federal Standing Army. I support the right of the private citizen to keep and bear arms 100% and I'm glad that is the interpretation, but I don't think it is clearly supported by the 2nd Amendment or the history and culture of the 1780's. I don't think the Founding Fathers were worried about government taking Dad's deer rifle at all. That would have started another revolution against the Federal government in about 2.5 seconds! They were worried about the Standing Federal Army disbanning state militias and and making it illegal for them to keep and bear arms to protect their states rights against a new and worrisome "Big" Federal Government with it's standing army. That's the first thing the British did was to seize militia armories and take cannons, powder and shot.

    Remember now that I said clearly, I support the right of the private citizen to keep and bear arms 100% and I'm glad that is the interpretation.

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    We can thank all the Barr voters....

    .....for Obama!! I cannot believe I am seeing this here!!

    THINK!!

    Read the post again by Jackie & Wolf!!

    Do you REALLY want Obama?? If that does not bother you then vote for Barr....otherwise you HAVE to vote for JM.

    How can such wise people make foolish decisions....think of a presidency under Obama before you pull the Barr lever.

    So frustrating to see this support from such smart people.

    sad...

    pf

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    What kind of membership does the ACLU have? Ain't the internet wonderful. The wiki says they have around 500,000 members.

    If 20% of the members of the NRA join in a year, and then threaten to quit when dues-time rolls around, the organization will experience a come-to-jeezus moment...

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