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    Practice versus match ammo.

    Just bought a Bill Myers custom Anschutz 1913 off the classified ads. This will be my first rimfire BR rifle but I've shot 3P with an Anschutz 54 before and shot a lot of SK plus which might not be good enough even for practice on BR. What is a good practice ammo for under $10 a box? I'm sure I'll pick up some Eley Tenex for match use but want to get some trigger time to develop my technique without spending $18 a box. Also where's a good place to order paper targets?

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    I practice with what I have found my RF Benchrest Rifles like to eat. I am a bad enough shot and wind reader, to further handicap myself by using less accurate (in my rifles) ammo that might give me false results.

    Bob

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    Agree with Bob

    I like putting my best foot forward.
    Like to get ready for match with what I'm going to use.
    No problem with practice ammo like the real thing.

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    What do you learn by practicing with bad ammo?

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    Well I'm not try to use "bad" ammo. Just saying if Tenex gets me a .25" group average at 50yds and something like RWS Target Rifle get me .3" groups it would be perfectly acceptable for practice. Maybe I haven't gone down the rabbit hole deep enough to mentally prepare for $18 a box ammo across the board lol.

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    To help your self

    Quote Originally Posted by burtona View Post
    what do you learn by practicing with bad ammo?
    to help your self with practice ammo shoot copuple grpsw see where flyers go one that go out with condition is you

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    Keep in mind that the majority of us are shooting either Eley Match or Midas+. Wonít take long for you to figure out shooting 10x & getting your arse handed to you it isnít worth it.

    Keith

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    I never could understand practicing with sub par ammo. How do you know if an errant shot was you or the ammo. I practice with what I shoot in a match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by linekin View Post
    Keep in mind that the majority of us are shooting either Eley Match or Midas+. Wonít take long for you to figure out shooting 10x & getting your arse handed to you it isnít worth it.

    Keith
    What do you mean by 10x? You're not referring to Tenex are you? Sorry I'm a newbie.

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    Mar 16 ?newbe?

    Just curious as to what a newbie is.

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    Newbie is same as rookie, green horn.. ect..

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    Both of my BR Quality RF Rifles shoot the best with less than the most expensive ammunition. Just have to fine out what works best for your rifle. May not be $18.00 a box.

    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by zanemoseley View Post
    Just bought a Bill Myers custom Anschutz 1913 off the classified ads. This will be my first rimfire BR rifle but I've shot 3P with an Anschutz 54 before and shot a lot of SK plus which might not be good enough even for practice on BR. What is a good practice ammo for under $10 a box? I'm sure I'll pick up some Eley Tenex for match use but want to get some trigger time to develop my technique without spending $18 a box. Also where's a good place to order paper targets?
    As many have posted, shoot the ammo in practice that you would shoot in a match. To find that ammo, you must test in the best conditions you can. You should shoot groups, and when you find a lot, not BRAND, that shoots good/best, you also need to shoot a card or several. You could refine this exercise by doing the same on different days when temps, slight variations in wind, etc are different.

    Keith was referring to Tenex when he typed 10X. Common switch on the name, used quite often. I shoot Center X, Midas+, Eley Match, and Tenex. I mostly shoot Match and Center X. You do not test BRANDS, well you could, but the best way is to test lots. Your rifle will tell you what lot to buy. Don't worry about brand, and if your wallet doesn't mind, cost. If you test enough, you may find a lot of any of the above that will shoot the best. One lot of Tenex may be killer in your rifle, the next 10 lots of Tenex may suck. There may be a lot of Match (more economical) that is better than the more costly Tenex you found. Same with Lapua. Midas+ costs more than CX (Center X). My second to last test at Lapua in Mesa, Az found a lot of CX that blew away any Midas+ we tested. Unfortunately, there were only 7 bricks of it. I bought it all. If there had been 2 cases of it, I would have bought it all. Not because it was cheaper though, but because it shot better than anything I had ever tested in that rifle.

    Don't equate cost of ammo to being the 'best' ammo. Also understand, if you find a super lot, buy as much as you can. When that lot is gone, it's gone and the whole process starts over again.

    As far as targets go, all three of the 'major' sanctioning bodies sell targets for their game. ARA, IR50/50, and ABRA. I use their targets for testing how a lot performs on the card, but for testing groups or tuning I make my own. I use foam board (Wallyworld, hobby/craft stores) and draw a grid on it with a ballpoint pen and metal ruler. The foam board cuts nice clean bullet holes and a 20 x 30 inch piece in 1" squares gives a ton of aiming x's to test with. Cost for one board is around a dollar. Hope some of this 'long' post helps.

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    When I buy .22 RF Match Ammo I get a list of the lots currently in stock by the supplier I will be using (usually the same one all the time). I will then buy a few boxes from each lot that has plenty of inventory. Why get some ammo that shoots really well and not be able to get more. Then as soon as I get it, I shoot targets and find out which lot of which brand works the best, that has plenty of inventory and order in a major supply. Unfortunately if you get really serious about this it gets really expensive, but not always in the cost per box, just the amount you lay out to get enough to make a difference.

    Bob

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    Test lots

    I miss the ELY analyzer, last ammo I bought I used it to pick test lots
    had good luck. Shoot 2 times a week with friends that relie on me to find ammo.

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