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  1. #16
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    200 yds

    [QUOTE=Gene Beggs;829617]Wally, not having a 200 yard range to practice on is not that big of a deal. The change in tune from 100 to 200 yards is only a small change; maybe .3 to .6 up or down on the powder charge or 1 or 2 clicks on the tuner. It doesn't require you to start from scratch, establish seating depth, neck tension etc. All that stays the same. The only thing that changes is either the powder charge or tuner setting, but don't try to mix them up. Decide beforehand which method you will use; powder charge method or tuner adjustments. In a registered match, three minutes are added to the first match of a yardage. This is plenty of time to reset the tuner for 200. The advantage of a good tuner is being able to adjust it at the line.

    A master always makes things look so simple, and for him it IS simple, because he understands what and why he is doing something. Tony Boyer is a classic example of this.

    Several years ago, it was my pleasure and great honor to train, one on one for two days with the Master himself, Tony Boyer. My match performance improved greatly as a result of what I learned in those two days. He did not waste time with things that I was already competent with; he carefully evaluated where I was and what my weaknesses were and concentrated on those two things: (1) He opened my eyes and emphasized viewing the range as a whole and avoid getting tunnel vision on the first flag. (2) Quit paying any attention to mirage ! That's right, he insisted that neither he or his wife Faye, paid any attention to mirage.

    Tony who? lol. I have to admit to tunnel vision when I am 3 shots into a string. Id get caught in a switch but those weren't the ones I was having trouble with. These were probably load related as they made no sense. I got so I was afraid to pull the trigger. If I had a 200 yd home range I would have burned up a barrel till I figured it out. It was the same with my HBR gun too. I shot a 250 x 21X at Van Dyne Wisc only to fall into 3rd place at 200. Ive decided to shoot my local club group matches in HV this year with a 700 action on an old McMillan stock and a full 22ppc.
    I sure appreciate the experienced info that everyone gave. What tuners are you all using if I can ask?

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    There are alot of

    good tuner designs out on the market. It depends on how your planning to use them. Are you going to "set it and forget it" and tune with powder. Or are you going to go preloaded and use the tuner to keep the tune you want.
    I use a Darrel Loker tuner and have had great success with them. I go preloaded and live and die by the tuner.

    What it boils down to is whatever brand you decide on is RANGE TIME. Learn what the groups are telling you as far as tune goes. I tell the guys when I am putting on tuner lessons to "Listen to the rifle, it's speaking to you, you just have to learn what it's saying.

    Richard Brensing

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    Since I am a heads up shooter, I obviously do not shoot mirage.

    The best way to look at 200 yards as opposed to 100 yards is it is not twice as difficult, it is three times as difficult.

    In short, little changes can result in big affects on the bullets path.

    I hunt and pick at 100, but at 200, I Shoot as fast as the condition will allow.
    Last edited by jackie schmidt; 12-14-2019 at 10:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie schmidt View Post
    Since I am a heads up shooter, I obviously do not shoot mirage.

    The best way to look at 200 yards as opposed to 100 yards is it is not twice as difficult, it is three times as difficult.

    In short, little changes can result in big affects on the bullets path.

    I hunt and pick at 100, but at 200, I Shooters as fast as the condition will allow.
    I have a sneaking suspicion that its best to do just exactly that. My worst groups by far were shot after 3 shots in a nice 200 yd group then having to stop and shoot the last two in a "similar" condition that wasn't the same. More 200 yd practice in real match conditions is my best guess for success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie schmidt View Post

    The best way to look at 200 yards as opposed to 100 yards is it is not twice as difficult, it is three times as difficult.

    "Some days Jackie"......"SOME DAYS!!!".......






    I just whish't I'da said that cuz yonder is TRUTH!

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    To shoot good at 200

    Iím extremely blessed by my location out here in Midland/Odessa TX. There are so many successful shooters in the area all more than willing to share their vast experiences and knowledge. These guys practice 80% of the time at 200 yards. We use a couple probes mixed in with a set of flags, (we always have winds) and every group is a mini match against each other. Itís practice, practice, practice until you have the confidence in your ability to agg as good as anyone at 200 yards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hayscott View Post
    Iím extremely blessed by my location out here in Midland/Odessa TX. There are so many successful shooters in the area all more than willing to share their vast experiences and knowledge. These guys practice 80% of the time at 200 yards. We use a couple probes mixed in with a set of flags, (we always have winds) and every group is a mini match against each other. Itís practice, practice, practice until you have the confidence in your ability to agg as good as anyone at 200 yards.

    Yep... Midland is a great place to learn how to dope the wind. I will never forget, the first time I saw Midland was in 1973. Flew out there with a Co-worker Pilot in a company owned Cessna 182. We landed at the airport in some of that bad ass West Texas wind. Scared the crap out a me. Good thing I brought a change of underwear

    My friend was suppose to be a hot shot pilot, but I never flew anywhere with him again. If you really want to test your wind doping skills, plan on attending a match at the Midland,Tx range.


    Glenn

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    wind

    Quote Originally Posted by Chism G View Post
    Yep... Midland is a great place to learn how to dope the wind. I will never forget, the first time I saw Midland was in 1973. Flew out there with a Co-worker Pilot in a company owned Cessna 182. We landed at the airport in some of that bad ass West Texas wind. Scared the crap out a me. Good thing I brought a change of underwear

    My friend was suppose to be a hot shot pilot, but I never flew anywhere with him again. If you really want to test your wind doping skills, plan on attending a match at the Midland,Tx range.


    Glenn
    Glenn, Its bad anytime you have to pack your underwear off with a stick. Doug

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