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    Legally, you need import/export paperwork

    For what that costs, and the exchange in the dollar, it is not worth it.

    I am sure there are those that purchase in the US and hope they make it to the Canadian border. If they do you are at the mercy of Canadian Border Services. Canadian law we can bring one across. US Homeland security says otherwise.

    Nothing to say if you try to declare it at the border that they will refuse you.

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    I see Al beat me to the punch

    Exactly what Al said.

    My take, I am a responsible Canadian gun owner. I have and renew my Possesion/Aquisition License every 5 years. My 3 hand guns are registered and I buy my range membership yearly to also legally possess my handguns. In Canada they can ONLY LEGALLY be discharged at a approved range.

    Even though that and having NO criminal record, I feel living outside of the US, and living in my own home country being a gun owner, I may be a criminal or terrorist.

    I understand why the US has imposed what they may have but let the people in the KNOW make those decisions. For Pete's sake have any of those people ever been to Canada or Manitoba? We live in igloos you know.......lol

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    Lightbulb scopes

    Here in Reno NV were only allowed Leupold,Zeiss and Swarovski scope on rifles.

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    Sucks to be you folk.....LOL

    In Canada we can even use Chinese knock off's......lol

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    Too bad Canadians can't have scopes shipped in from here. There are some very good deals on optics right now.

    Just scooped up a couple, for rifles yet to be built.

    Good shootin'. -Al

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    You are

    Quote Originally Posted by Al Nyhus View Post
    Too bad Canadians can't have scopes shipped in from here. There are some very good deals on optics right now.

    Just scooped up a couple, for rifles yet to be built.

    Good shootin'. -Al
    right Al. A optic is not like a rifle or handgun.

    But I can buy a range finder or binoculars or spotting scope. Yet no rifle scope because it is labelled a rifle scope which is bad. It is a danger to the American people........LOL

    Calvin

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    Quote Originally Posted by alinwa View Post
    I'm curious as to Calvin's experiences.......



    Since Homeland inSincerity went into effect my Canuck buddies and rellies have found it ridiculously hard to get stuff into the states and even harder to get stuff out! It's not the Canadian side that's a problem it's our US laws!! Canada charges a token import fee based solely on value but the US has stacked all sorts of junk in the road.

    Since DHS and their partner in crime TSA have zero oversight they just make up laws as they go along and they've instituted an "Export Tax" for which you need an "Export Permit" before you can legally send Calvin a scope..... and normal Americans just set back and smirk and think "well, sucks to be them"

    and guys like me get kicked off forums for badmouthing and fighting our "government" LOL
    And then you have to poke around the ITAR rules from the State Department.

    Most of our sporting scopes are not 'Defense Items.'
    But it takes a decent amount of reading and review of the 'Munitions List' and other regulations.
    And from a bunch of bureaucrats that often seem to not have all that much understanding of what they are trying to regulate.

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    I have or had most scopes mentioned here, all great.
    The single best varmint scope I have ever had , if you can locate one, is the Leupold 8.5X25 with their varmint hunter reticle. Zero unnecessary crap on the reticle but great for wind/hold over. Sits on a TAC 20.

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    Decided to

    give a Vortex PST 6-24 X50.... a try. Price was too good to pass up. If it does not work out I will be able to sell it in short order.

    Helps when you have a great gun shop that if you treat them well, they give you a GREAT deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Nyhus View Post
    Calvin, can Canadians purchase a scope in the U.S. and have shipped up there w/o too much hassle? -Al
    WOW.... BigAl is right. Fat tube 6.5x20 side focus for 600 bucks?

    Some sick deals down here in the States right now

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    I have been using a Leupold 6.5 X 20 Vari-X III with a Leupold Dot on my old Remington 788 in .222 Remington and it just keeps working there. I bought this one used from when I had still been working at Sinclair International and it had been a "mule scope" for a long time at the retail sales counter until it had been offered to me for a price that I could not refuse. The only other thing that it does have is a set of the old Stoney Pointe add on target turrets on it. Money well spent in my opinion. It had to go back to Leupold once for what appeared to be fine bubbles in the outer edges of some of the larger optics up front and they wanted it back to look at it. In typical Leupold fashion they apologized for the issue and took care of other issues that they had found and I had it back in a week and back on the rifle.

    Bob
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    Scope makers and users have in the past 40 or so years adopted the MSMD motto.

    Not to long ago a K4 or K6 was a wonderful scope. Now we need all the variables and goofy reticles as several noted. Just try to buy a 4 or 6 straight power scope.




    MSMD= monkey see, monkey do!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by langenc View Post
    Scope makers and users have in the past 40 or so years adopted the MSMD motto.

    Not to long ago a K4 or K6 was a wonderful scope. Now we need all the variables and goofy reticles as several noted. Just try to buy a 4 or 6 straight power scope.

    MSMD= monkey see, monkey do!!
    4x to 6x is a little low for longer range varmints.

    I have it down to a lot of setup, one shot, one dead varmint.
    Maybe wait a few hours to see of any more come back up.

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    I would think that the scope power you need will vary depending upon size of varmints and the average distances being shot. Here in the east we shoot woodchucks (groundhogs)and the average distance is only 150-200 yards, so you don't need as much power as you would need out west on prairie dogs at 300-400 yards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilGunsmith View Post
    I would think that the scope power you need will vary depending upon size of varmints and the average distances being shot. Here in the east we shoot woodchucks (groundhogs)and the average distance is only 150-200 yards, so you don't need as much power as you would need out west on prairie dogs at 300-400 yards.

    Well, try 300-"to infinity and beyond!!"

    IMO anything inside 300 is best left for the kids to plink at offhand. Or save it for video clips.

    Most everybody I know spends most time shooting stuff you can't see with the nekkid eye be it rockchucks, marmots, flickertails, dawgs or squeerrells. In other words you take two people, one spotting and the other shooting and you quarter along together with a running verbal commentary then when one or the other finds a target they walk it together using "that shadowed rock that looks like a frog" and "down a few degrees left of that angled green strip" and just above the third post from the corner" until both are settled on the same animal.

    I, personally, would be bored stiff shooting varmints at 100-200...... I'd have to use a pistol or a 22RF

    And I've never hunted varmints with less than 20X

    I have dialed down for moving coyotes and badgers but that's incidental pest control, not hunting.

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