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    A interesting experience

    with the B and A trigger.

    Had a shooter at my range and the B&A all at once developed alot of creep and then would not fire until you let off of the trigger. Took it apart and cleaned it and still had the same issues. Took it apart again and noticed the anadizing (sp) had rubbed off along the side plates along the sear bar. I got out my 20X loupe and you could see very small particles where the two balls run. I cleaned those out, you couldn't see them with your naked eye. The trigger worked perfectly after that.
    The B&A is a unbelieveably good trigger, but it needs to be perfectly clean to work well. I was amazed at how such a small amount of debris could cause a malfunction.
    Anybody else notice this.

    Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    with the B and A trigger.

    Had a shooter at my range and the B&A all at once developed alot of creep and then would not fire until you let off of the trigger. Took it apart and cleaned it and still had the same issues. Took it apart again and noticed the anadizing (sp) had rubbed off along the side plates along the sear bar. I got out my 20X loupe and you could see very small particles where the two balls run. I cleaned those out, you couldn't see them with your naked eye. The trigger worked perfectly after that.
    The B&A is a unbelieveably good trigger, but it needs to be perfectly clean to work well. I was amazed at how such a small amount of debris could cause a malfunction.
    Anybody else notice this.

    Richard
    Yes.
    I have Bix & Andy triggers on all four of my competition rifles. They are great.......when they work.

    I have had one malfunction. Lucky for me, it was not in a match. I took it apart as per instructions, it worked perfect after I cleaned it and reassembled it.

    The fact is, you have to be very careful that the trigger does not get contaminated.

    Remember the days when all we had to do was flush a trigger out with lighter fluid and not worry about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie schmidt View Post
    Yes.
    I have Bix & Andy triggers on all four of my competition rifles. They are great.......when they work.

    I have had one malfunction. Lucky for me, it was not in a match. I took it apart as per instructions, it worked perfect after I cleaned it and reassembled it.

    The fact is, you have to be very careful that the trigger does not get contaminated.

    Remember the days when all we had to do was flush a trigger out with lighter fluid and not worry about it.

    I feel that


    I had (have, I guess) just two Jewell's back in the 80's......just two guns. I blanked a primer and busted the link in one probably within a year, set it aside "to work on later", ordered up a replacement and never got the new one broke in quite where I wanted....

    I got many other triggers through the years and they never "felt as good" as my old ones but I'm the type who always sets stuff aside for "when I get the time"....... YET, as time went by I was always convinced that old trigger just broke cleaner.

    Then I busted the other old one.

    So I made a connector bar and never really got it right.

    It was probably 2010 by the time I sent those triggers back to Jewell to be fixed.

    And somewhere's in there, at the advice of Boyd Allen I did take a couple apart and work them over.

    In the end I've got probably 10-12 Jewell's and I can't even keep them sorted out but some of them are definitely better than others. And the great ones are perfectly great until they aren't. And I keep telling myself "yeahhh, I should set down and go thru them"....

    I've now got at least one of all the others and........

    Sometimes I miss those days when a Jewell just WENT when I wanted it to, every time. And when it didn't I'd hose it out and get right back to business... glitch gone.
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    Triggers

    Its been my experience, shooting competition, that all triggers are vulnerable to malfunction when they get dirty. Doesn’t matter the brand.

    This happened at a registered match, at Huntsvile,Tx, on a Sunday afternoon at 200yds, Last yardage of the Day,Match 5.

    I had four shots on the record target, that looked to be about .350. Clock is running, with 30 seconds left. Wind is light and switchy. Im shooting green at a 2:00 o’clock angle. I touch the jewel trigger and nothing happens. didn’t hear a click with all the firing at the line. thinking that I forgot to put powder in the case,I touch the bolt to extract the round and the Rifle fires. The shot landed on the record target, just barely inside the right border line.

    I have had this jewell trigger forever. Arnold Jewell adjusted the pull weight, at a registered match at New Braunfels,Tx. almost twenty years ago. I cleaned it up, after the long trip back from the match. It still works fine.

    There is an art to adjusting a trigger, Its a subjective process, at least for me.


    Glenn

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    IIRC a friend said that he cleaned triggers using Honda power steering fluid in a small ultrasonic cleaner. Thoughts?

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    Lighter Fluid used to be the go too product but the original formula has now since been out lawed in Ca. and it just ain't the same.

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    Thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by adamsgt View Post
    IIRC a friend said that he cleaned triggers using Honda power steering fluid in a small ultrasonic cleaner. Thoughts?

    I'm not an expert on triggers, but, I can't think of a reason why an ultra sonic cleaner wouldn't work. I would disassemble the trigger prior to putting it in the ultrasonic. I do know that ultra sonic cleaners work on jewelry.


    Glenn

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