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    Berger 115?

    How decent are the Berger 115fb in a 30br ? I will be shooting local club 100yd for score.

    I found a source for BiB bullets but its 510$ Canadian for 500 bullets. Im just not sure if thats in my budget for fun matches. The Bergers are 386 Canadian for 500.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrxR View Post
    How decent are the Berger 115fb in a 30br ? I will be shooting local club 100yd for score.

    I found a source for BiB bullets but its 510$ Canadian for 500 bullets. Im just not sure if thats in my budget for fun matches. The Bergers are 386 Canadian for 500.

    Thanks
    The 115 Berger FB are a decent bullet. RG

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.G. Robinett View Post
    The 115 Berger FB are a decent bullet. RG
    Thanks. I would prefer some of yours buts its a little out of budget for now .

    Should i still try a hard jam with the bergers and around . 004 neck tension to start?

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    BIB, BARTs and BERGERs shoot well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrxR View Post
    Thanks. I would prefer some of yours buts its a little out of budget for now .

    Should i still try a hard jam with the bergers and around . 004 neck tension to start?
    Roger that - with any small to medium volume thirty Cal. cartridge, intended for precision work, and short/light bullets, that's where I'd start.

    I have discussed seating and bushing size with many who use, "other" bullets, or, mine, who can't quite reach the goodies: "jam" and neck-tension, are almost always the last pieces of the puzzle . . . well, unless you, "begin at the end"!

    I get a fair number of call-backs, from individuals (above) who were wary of jam, neck-tension, and compression - the usual call-back goes something similar to, "it was like turning on the lights". Just keep in mind, that [almost] nothing is absolute (except that, nothing is absolute), or, universal. I know several individuals who make some "jump" work, but even they - well, most of 'em - use adequate neck-tension: enough to prevent the powder from pushing the bullet hard enough to alter seating-depth.

    If your BBL "likes" a jump, you must be prepared to use a small enough neck bushing enough to keep the bullet where it needs to be - the powder will be slightly more compressed . . . Keep 'em ON the X! RG

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.G. Robinett View Post

    If your BBL "likes" a jump, you must be prepared to use a small enough neck bushing enough to keep the bullet where it needs to be - the powder will be slightly more compressed . . . Keep 'em ON the X! RG
    assuming you maintain properly annealed necks

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    TrxR,
    I have had really good success with the Berger 115's in my 30 BR.
    Although they shoot well at jam my current bbl really likes them at .025 off jam which is just off the lands with my reamer.
    I use a .327 bushing in a .332 NK chamber, loaded round measures .330 so @ .003 neck tension.
    33,8 gr of my current lot of H4198 is going 3047 FPS, and fills the case @ 1/2 way up the neck.
    (This combo shot a 500-30x at last club match.)
    For what it's worth, I use Ezell tuners on all my SR BR rifles, and have found that the tuner seems to be "easier to tune" with
    the bullet just off the lands with most (but not all) of my PPC barrels as well.
    Even if the groups are equal at jam and just off the lands (usually .025-.030 off JAM) without the tuner, the just off seems to have a wider tune window.
    Don't know why, just what I've observed. Maybe Mike or Gene could weigh in on this.
    Just my experience, your results mat vary but in my opinion you won't be handicapped by the Berger.
    Greg

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    I always had good results with Berger 108 BT
    But with a new batch of Berger, I was having a harder time having good groups. So I borrowed a box of 500 units of Bib 108 grains (I believe it's an older lot).
    Already in the first tests, just changing the jump, I got groups of 3 shots smaller than .15 MOA at 100 m in a 6 BR and a Dasher.
    I was impressed.


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    Imo

    Quote Originally Posted by Liseo View Post
    I always had good results with Berger 108 BT
    But with a new batch of Berger, I was having a harder time having good groups. So I borrowed a box of 500 units of Bib 108 grains (I believe it's an older lot).
    Already in the first tests, just changing the jump, I got groups of 3 shots smaller than .15 MOA at 100 m in a 6 BR and a Dasher.
    I was impressed.


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    you really need to measure each Berger 115 with a .308 ogive checker mounted on a Vernier. My results show they need to be segregated. They shoot just fine when you present them to the barrel at the same distance off, on or into the lands.

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    I shoot a score national using berger 115 won most of it and i think i set 3 world record's

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