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Thread: Cleaning, one patch or two?

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    Cleaning, one patch or two?

    So I was running low on 1 3/8 patches shooting a 6mm and I grabbed up some 1 3/4 ........ and realized something, I'm habituated to a certain method!!!

    I've been using 2 corner-to-corner 1 3/8 patches for 35yrs...1 1/8 for .22's....

    80% of the time I find myself using this method, so

    ONE patch or TWO??

    What say you?

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    I don't recall ever intentionally using 2 patches at once. I have by mistake a few times, then they get stuck in the leade and I have to remove the bore guide and push them out from the other end.

    I use round jags, not the slotted kind. I'm using Wipeout and Accelerator for almost all cleaning, so I'm basically just pushing on through. I only scrub for stubborn carbon in the corners, using either penetrating oil or that Remington stuff with the abrasive in it that you have to shake up. It's been a long time since I used a brush, J&B or nasty smelling chemicals.

    I only use Pro-Shot patches because they are the best flannel. I have a bunch of sizes and I only know them by their look, not their measurement. I have some round ones that I like for .30 caliber. I also use the round ones for .22 and I think I use the 1-1/8" for 6mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vtmarmot View Post
    I don't recall ever intentionally using 2 patches at once. I have by mistake a few times, then they get stuck in the leade and I have to remove the bore guide and push them out from the other end.

    I use round jags, not the slotted kind. I'm using Wipeout and Accelerator for almost all cleaning, so I'm basically just pushing on through. I only scrub for stubborn carbon in the corners, using either penetrating oil or that Remington stuff with the abrasive in it that you have to shake up. It's been a long time since I used a brush, J&B or nasty smelling chemicals.

    I only use Pro-Shot patches because they are the best flannel. I have a bunch of sizes and I only know them by their look, not their measurement. I have some round ones that I like for .30 caliber. I also use the round ones for .22 and I think I use the 1-1/8" for 6mm.
    For .25 and .26 caliber I use the Pro-Shot 1-1/8 for loose patches with Accelerator and Wipeout. 1-1/2 and 1-3/4 for tight patches.

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    I use one at a time. Fewer to pick up afterwards. If you're concerned about surface area go with a bigger single patch and use a smaller jag.

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    Anyone here ever wrapped a patch around a nylon brush? Ive done this a couple of times and know a couple of guys that do it all the time.

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    are we talking push thru on a jag or a wrap patch
    i tend to use the size that fits
    i find usgi 5.56 patches make a good push thru on 30 cal
    and usgi 30 cal make good wrap in 30 cal for bore paste
    Last edited by retired; 07-05-2019 at 03:06 PM.

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    I guess I'll hafta' take a picture.....see if I can get it blurry enough that the site will accept it.

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    I have wrapped a patch on a nylon brush when using J-B paste. It works good. Fortunately, I don't need to do it much.

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    So, the reason I use two is so that I can adjust the tension better than just using offset. Using only offset I'll sometimes feel that the short side isn't carrying it's load......using two lets me center up.

    For instance I'll run my first wet patch of Montana Extreme loose to clean out the main gunk, then another loose to coat the bore with solvent, then a third wet patch but a bit tighter and I'll short-stroke this one spending a little extra time in the throat and the muzzle.

    I just realized I do have a pic here..... it's of the browned-up gunky looking ME that recently came out of a Ronsonol can. I grabbed up my drip-spout Ronsonol can after it's been setting for a few months and it looks rusty.

    So I took a picture. But this picture does have the 2 patches setup, 1 1/8 size, configured for my first pass thru a 6mm bore

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    Apparently I prefer a looser patch fit than you. I use a .22 piercing jag with a single, centered 1 3/8" square patch, for 6mm bores. I have never seen the advantage of squeezing the solvent out of a patch as it leaves the chamber. My barrels pass bore scope inspection. I use a bronze brush after the first round of patching.

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    The whole deal is about how the patch and jag fit the barrel. Find a jag and patch that gives you the feel that you prefer an go with it. Preferably, buy several jags and a whole bunch of patches when you find the right fit and you're all set for a while. The reason alinwa is using two patches is that feels right to him and if nothing else feels right then just keep doing what you're doing. I always just used one patch but there was a time or two I had to use two because I ran out or left 'em home.

    Bottom line here is that I recommend to alinwa to try to find a patch/jag combination that he likes rather than use two patches. I do know that alinwa deals with more than one caliber, rather than just a 6mm like myself, and that makes it a bit more difficult...quite a bit actually. We're almost talking about rocket science here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilbur View Post
    We're almost talking about rocket science here.
    Yes, choosing between one or two patches can be complicated.

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    I have maybe 15 "pierce type" jags. Some with razor sharp metal inserts, some all brass, some AL etc. Like Boyd I don't wring solvent into my chamber so fit and amount of solvent are critical.

    Interesting to me though that none of you use two

    Back in the late 80's, early 90's I got the impression from the IBS guys out East that "this is just how you do this part"........ I remember getting a 20min tutorial from Lee Euber in the late 90's including how to use (2) patches and how to clean your bronze brushes to make 'em last, finishing with LockEez (which I never bought into LOL)

    Bore guides were just coming onto the scene and "more barrels are worn out by cleaning than by shooting" was the mantra.

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    BTW Boyd........ that patch isn't a soggy as it looks.. I had exactly 5 drops, arranged on the tips of a pentagon, or the tips of a Betsy Ross star (ooops, I just made it political!) but they all blurred together while I got my phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    Yes, choosing between one or two patches can be complicated.

    Rest easy me' man......NOTHING will ever be complicated for you

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