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    Scope choice for .22 BR

    Newbie here Hi to all.

    At my club, we shoot a BR competition at 25m usint the NSRA BR targets (https://www.nsrashop.co.uk/collectio...0-br-15-target).

    I've been shooting this discipline with my Volquartsen 10/22 for a seaso now, averaging low 90s (out of 100). I've just bought an Anschutz 1813 in a Supermatch stock, with the intention of becoming a bit more competitive and am looking at a scope for it. I have a shortlist of two: the Sightron SII 36◊42 BRD or the Hawke Sidewinder 30 SF 8-32◊56 with perhaps the Weaver T36 as a reserve option.

    I know both the Sigtron and Weaver are well used by BR shooters but I'm wondering if 36x might be a bit too much magnification at 25m? The comp I shoot does not permit the use of a rear bag, just a front rest (or bipod) so I'm thinking that I'm not going to be quite as stable, when it comes to shakes(!) as those who shoot BR with heavy front rest and rear bag.

    That's my question then....is 32x just too much at 25m or would this be an appropriate magnification for the discipline I shoot?
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    My opinion only, but in a word "no". 32X is not to much power at 25M. I would tend to go with as much power as I can get. The only reason for less power would be to deal with mirage.

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    A differnet approach

    If your newly acquired 1813 has iron sights and given that the target has a lot of black, I would give those a go. Anschutz has really great iron ( peep ) sights. Once you get a iris that fits the target correctly, they can be more accurate than a scope. There are even other aftermarket sights that are even better. Seeming how your not using a rear bag, the irons play well with a hold it tight, cheek weld handling technique.

    If you really just want to go with a scope, 12-14X would be more than plenty at 25M.

    This is with a CZ452 Trainer at 50 yards with a fixed 12X Leupold. Your 1813 should do really well with a 12X at 25M
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    Quote Originally Posted by George Atkins View Post
    If your newly acquired 1813 has iron sights and given that the target has a lot of black, I would give those a go. Anschutz has really great iron ( peep ) sights. Once you get a iris that fits the target correctly, they can be more accurate than a scope. There are even other aftermarket sights that are even better. Seeming how your not using a rear bag, the irons play well with a hold it tight, cheek weld handling technique.

    If you really just want to go with a scope, 12-14X would be more than plenty at 25M.

    This is with a CZ452 Trainer at 50 yards with a fixed 12X Leupold. Your 1813 should do really well with a 12X at 25M
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    One vote for higher magnification and one against (thus far). Thanks both.

    The 1813 I'm buying doesn't come with any sights at all I'm afraid. I am familiar with aperture sights. I used to shoot a lot of .22 prone (perhaps 35 years ago) and was using an Anschutz then. I've recently acquired a Parker Hale TZ 4/47 aperture sight to try with my Lee Enfield No. 4 Mk.1 and I will admit, It's taking some getting used to, even at just 100 yds. My eyes are not what they were.

    I've been using a 12x scope on my Volquartsen and I think I would like more than that, having now shot BR for a full season. Will be interesting to see what other views folks on here have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Atkins View Post

    This is with a CZ452 Trainer at 50 yards with a fixed 12X Leupold. Your 1813 should do really well with a 12X at 25M
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    I meant to add that's some nice shooting. The CZ rifles (452 and 455) are used by quite of a few of the guys in my club. A lot of interest over here in the new 457 too.

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    Generally if you are over 50 irons become a problem because of aging eyes. Heck I can't even use buck horns anymore, physically it is there, eyeballs say nope. Aperture types well better but not round and the back one always looks like there is lint in it, while the front is a bit of an egg shape. 36 x at 25 m is doable just takes a bit of practice. I run 36x on my silly wet rifles and that is all off hand work. hardest part is the small field of view compared to lower mag units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blades View Post
    Generally if you are over 50 irons become a problem because of aging eyes. Heck I can't even use buck horns anymore, physically it is there, eyeballs say nope. Aperture types well better but not round and the back one always looks like there is lint in it, while the front is a bit of an egg shape. 36 x at 25 m is doable just takes a bit of practice. I run 36x on my silly wet rifles and that is all off hand work. hardest part is the small field of view compared to lower mag units.
    Tell me about it. I'm 57 now and irons are getting harder to use, especially at distance and/or if the light isn't great. I'm getting tempted to give the 32x a go but really do appreciate any and all commentary on the matter. It's clear from reading the forums that there are some very experienced and knowledgable people on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blades View Post
    Generally if you are over 50 irons become a problem because of aging eyes. Heck I can't even use buck horns anymore, physically it is there, eyeballs say nope. Aperture types well better but not round and the back one always looks like there is lint in it, while the front is a bit of an egg shape. 36 x at 25 m is doable just takes a bit of practice. I run 36x on my silly wet rifles and that is all off hand work. hardest part is the small field of view compared to lower mag units.
    Thatís why they make shooting glasses, especially ones with a Merit diopter on them.
    Silly Wet rifles???? Do you have well armed squirrels you have to deal with ?

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    36x Sightron

    Many here at our club shooting 25 meter air rifle use the 36x Sightron and have very good luck with it !

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    tHeck someone basically gave away a Leupold 40x45 that Iím using at 50 FEET on my Suhl 150.
    36x is not too much.
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    We use a March 48x52 Highmaster & Nightforce 15-55x52 competition on my & my partners outdoor 50 yard MS-18 Annie & custom Lithgow & 22 BR rifles which I also use inside at 25 yards.

    I find the higher magnification a big help as I can hold off precisely where I need to to try to get the perfect score

    As there is no mirage inside there is no downside to more magnification as long as the parallex adjustment will go down far enough

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    No mirage inside?

    That is mirage ! I don`t think I am by myself, I have shot at many 50yard 22RFBR Indoor facilities and every one has had Mirage and sometimes a lot of it ! More shooters = Mirage ! I have 25 Bench Indoor venue here and just had the
    ARA Indoor Nationals in it , with 100 shooters / 5 relays and a bunch of MIRAGE!
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    Scope choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Slick Willy View Post
    That is mirage ! I don`t think I am by myself, I have shot at many 50yard 22RFBR Indoor facilities and every one has had Mirage and sometimes a lot of it ! More shooters = Mirage ! I have 25 Bench Indoor venue here and just had the
    ARA Indoor Nationals in it , with 100 shooters / 5 relays and a bunch of MIRAGE!
    I use both the Sightron 36 and the Weaver T-36 at a local 20yd indoor range. Both work very well. Just be sure that the scope you choose will adjust low enough for the shorter distance ranges. My 69 yr old eyes need all the help they can get!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick Willy View Post
    That is mirage ! I don`t think I am by myself, I have shot at many 50yard 22RFBR Indoor facilities and every one has had Mirage and sometimes a lot of it ! More shooters = Mirage ! I have 25 Bench Indoor venue here and just had the
    ARA Indoor Nationals in it , with 100 shooters / 5 relays and a bunch of MIRAGE!
    Damn Slick!!

    If you'd got a hold of me, I could have designed your range to eliminate "all" mirage for the measly cost of approximately $100,000 to $150,000. Surely you can sell enough additional chickens to afford that? LOL

    Landy

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskerP7M8 View Post
    Damn Slick!!

    If you'd got a hold of me, I could have designed your range to eliminate "all" mirage for the measly cost of approximately $100,000 to $150,000. Surely you can sell enough additional chickens to afford that? LOL

    Landy
    See you this weekend in the Swamp Landy , No Mirage in da Bayou! Who say Dat!

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