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    Hunter Class (My experience)

    I got talked into buying a hunter class rifle(10lb),by my mentor, back in 1999. At that time, VFS was gaining popularity and has since become a popular venue,In most regions. you can compete in VFS with any legal group class rifle except unlimited.

    My Rifle was chambered in 30 Fat Albert. Built by Cecil Tucker. Its unfortunate that the “Fat Albert” Character’s creator, Bill Cosby, was recently sentenced to 3 to 10 years in State Prison for sexual predation. Many fans were surprised to find out what Bill was doing behind the curtains.

    The 30 Fat Albert was a very accurate Hunter Class Chambering. I shot it in a couple of VFS matches. Recoil was quite noticeable. At the end of the match, you felt the effects for several days.

    Making brass from 284 win brass was a real PITA. I had Neil Jones make me some form Dies but the process was still labor intensive.

    The only thing I have left from that Rifle is the 6X scope. I just cant see myself shooting group with a 30 Fat Albert. Has nothing to do with the character.


    Glenn

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    I think shooting group with a full blown Hunter rifle (including 6X scope) would be fun. However, I also think, I would be in the minority. Maybe this idea could be used as a money maker for the club hosting the traditional score Hunter match. Just an idea - after the Hunter match - interested participants could pay $5 and shoot one 5 shot group with their Hunter rifles. Winner takes half - club gets half.

    Stanley

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    Quote Originally Posted by coondogkid View Post
    Has anyone thought about "Hunter Group" matches ?
    Last time I did that - complete with the 6x scope - was at a Minnesota State (group) Championship - many years ago - I finished 2nd at 100, and 3rd at 200 (run & gunned) and 3rd in the Grand. The only, "holy cows", came from the scorer and the target crew: not a single, "I never believed you", from the contestants. If you don't win, it can't be any good - even if it finishes ahead of the vast majority of precision rifles, and, "can't possibly compete for anything but last."

    Way back - we held a few "club matches", where we shot for both group and score, using our Hunter Rifles - never could get anyone above the club level to consider that format. Before the move to the 6-bull (sighter, plus five reocrds), the NBRSA 300 Yd. target was a two bull deal (sighter & record) moving backer was required: tie-breaker was groups size.

    Another throw-back group experience, from the River City days, [the late] Dan Jarvis, attended one of our NBRSA registered events: group/Hunter events (group Sat. Hunter Sun.). Dan was toting a new - never fired - Larry Smart smithed 30x47 and, to fire-form, shot it, for group, Saturday. Regrettably, I talked him out of paying the entry fee, and put him down on bench ten, and just hung targets and required him to shoot during the matches . . . his .28xx was the only 100Yd. Agg, "in the twos" that day. Of course, for the record, his Agg didn't count. Another "my bad" on yours truly.

    Those were the "good 'ol dayz!" Keep 'em ON the X! RG

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    Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey!

    Glen, I too am greatly saddened by Bill Cosby's behavior. He was my favorite comedian. He was never political, totally unlike today's comics. He was also a talented actor and I admired him. Fat Albert like many 30 calibers can have a surprising amount of recoil. That heavy bullet seems to wallop you out of proportion to its weight. I agree with the people who disliked the 6 power scope. I have a hunter gun moldering in my safe; 2" wide for-end, Stohle action with magazine cut out and 6 power Weaver scope in 30 X 44. It was a nice effort to introduce people to BR shooting who owned hunting rifles but it evolved into custom actions, Jewell triggers and custom stocks. Even then they might have shot well but the 6 power rule doomed the venue.
    So you are 75! Listen Glen. You may be interested in the new medical, geriatric, genital tune up kit. It consists of a vial of testosterone, a prescription for Viagra and a little battery operated crane to, as the advertisements say, "enhance your lifestyle". Tim
    Last edited by Tim Oltersdorf; 10-15-2018 at 07:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Oltersdorf View Post
    Glen, I too am greatly saddened by Bill Cosby's behavior. He was my favorite comedian. He was never political, totally unlike today's comics. He was also a talented actor and I admired him. Fat Albert like many 30 calibers can have a surprising amount of recoil. That heavy bullet seems to wallop you out of proportion to its weight. I agree with the people who disliked the 6 power scope. I have a hunter gun moldering in my safe; 2" wide for-end, Stohle action with magazine cut out and 6 power Weaver scope in 30 X 44. It was a nice effort to introduce people to BR shooting who owned hunting rifles but it evolved into custom actions, Jewell triggers and custom stocks. Even then they might have shot well but the 6 power rule doomed the venue.
    So you are 75! Listen Glen. You may be interested in the new medical, geriatric, genital tune up kit. It consists of a vial of testosterone, a prescription for Viagra and a little battery operated crane to, as the advertisements say, "enhance your lifestyle". Tim

    Tim,is that tune up kit covered under Medicare? Really ,I just need a little something to keep from accidentally rolling out of Bed.


    Glenn

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    I had to look..R.G is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilbur View Post
    I had to look..R.G is correct.
    Couldn't, "take it", the last year of the 8x scope for Sporter, was 1962; '63 was the first year of what Sporter was until the recent relaxations on stock configuration, and caliber restriction. BTW, August 9-11, '63, was the fourth NBRSA LV,Sporter, HV, National Championship, conducted at the Colonel Whelen Range, near St. Louis, MO. Note: in that era, there were TWO group NATIONALS: LV, Sporter, HV, AND the BENCH-REST NATIONAL MATCHES. The stone was not fully engraved for another year, or, two.

    That same year, August 29, through Sept.1, the 10Th BENCH-REST NATIONAL MATCHES, sponsored by the Eastern Region of the NBRSA, were conducted at the Council Cup Rifle range, near Wapwallopen, PA. In that era, there were two classes: Unrestricted, and Limited. The only restriction on Limited class was that the rear rest could not be [mechanically] adjustable for windage and elevation, nor, could the front rest provide a guiding means for returning the rifle to battery. I'm tired of typing, and there ain't any Xes to be had . . . 'sides, who cares about history? RG
    Last edited by R.G. Robinett; 10-17-2018 at 11:13 AM.

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