Using brass sthat has been fired in other guns in your guns?

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zeke mccune

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Hi All:

I have been told that I could not use brass that has been fired in other rifles in my guns and expect any form of accuracy. Is this true? If it is true, why is it true? Does brass take a permanent "set" when it is fired in a gun that remains with that brass forever? Would full length resizing straighten the brass if it were less than oerfect?

I have 2000 pieces of .308 Winchester brass that was fired at a rifle range in Remington 700 Sniper rifles. The brass was collected and carefully boxed for my use. Would it be wise to use this brass for reloading?

Tia,

Zeke
 
ABSOLUTLY NOT...
BOX THAT TRASH UP AND SEND IT TO ME!

ok if real sniper rifles then they may have close to min chambers and you will likely have no issues.

size a few and make dummy rounds and see how they fit.

you may require a small base die but i doubt it.
i would full length size a little smaller than is required to easily chamber, and then neck size in the future...
WHAT TYPE OF RIFLE WILL YOU BE USING ??

mike in co

zeke mccune said:
Hi All:

I have been told that I could not use brass that has been fired in other rifles in my guns and expect any form of accuracy. Is this true? If it is true, why is it true? Does brass take a permanent "set" when it is fired in a gun that remains with that brass forever? Would full length resizing straighten the brass if it were less than oerfect?

I have 2000 pieces of .308 Winchester brass that was fired at a rifle range in Remington 700 Sniper rifles. The brass was collected and carefully boxed for my use. Would it be wise to use this brass for reloading?

Tia,

Zeke
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Zeke,

Prep a small sample & see how she goes.

The issue is/can be expansion of the case near the head. If your chamber is close to or larger than the chambers the brass was fired in, it shouldn't be an issue. In some instances, the difference can be corrected by sizing oversize brass in a small base sizing die.

Start out by adjusting your normal full length sizing die until the fired cases enter the chamber without the bolt handle hanging up. If you can't get a result that way, try to borrow a small base die & go through the procedure of adjusting until you succeed. Then load & see how that brass works after prepping again.

Don't give up until you exhaust the options.

John
 
Hi:

I looked at the brass and it is marked LC MATCH 93 and has a straight knurl near the base of the cartridge. Is this good brass? Would anybody use these for BR?

Yes, the rifles in which these shells were fired were indeed "real" sniper rifles used by a very elite unit!

Stay well,

Zeke
 
John Kielly said:
... try to borrow a small base die & go through the procedure of adjusting until you succeed. Then load & see how that brass works after prepping again.
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Been my experience (and I do mean experience) that will mean using the small base die every, or every couple reloadings. Blasted brass has a memory, and wants to go back to the larger base diameter.

If you've got more time than money & don't frustrate easily, have at it.

BTW, I got the experience because the case I was using was based on RWS .404 brass. RWS has declined to make any new cases...
 
They are from 1993 Lake City M852 Match. Originaly loaded with 168gr SMK at 2550fps for use in M14 NM rifles out too 600yrds. Also used in the M24 Sniper rifles until the M118LR came out with the 175gr SMK. The cannulure around the base will case case seperations after too many reloadings in a gas gun. I have shot 1000's of these rounds a year in competition.
 
I would not waist my time on brass shot out of an M14.

Case head separation is likely after a couple of reloadings.

You need to observe a M14 or M1A being shot at night, with the fired case being ejected, to understand why there is danger of case head separation. The cases are being ejected during the firing phase causing excessive expansion of the cases.
 
HI:

This ammo was fired in Remington bolt action rifles by a team of snipers who were praticing desert warfare. Perhaps the guns were the M24 Remingtons.

Stay well,

Zeke
 
zeke mccune said:
Hi All:

I have been told that I could not use brass that has been fired in other rifles in my guns and expect any form of accuracy. Is this true? If it is true, why is it true? Does brass take a permanent "set" when it is fired in a gun that remains with that brass forever? Would full length resizing straighten the brass if it were less than oerfect?

I have 2000 pieces of .308 Winchester brass that was fired at a rifle range in Remington 700 Sniper rifles. The brass was collected and carefully boxed for my use. Would it be wise to use this brass for reloading?

Tia,

Zeke
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If you can get it to fit in your chamber it should work fine for you.

BUT, yes, brass takes a permanent set when it's fired. This is the basis of "fireforming." Full length sizing can't "straighten" anything, ever. The best thing for you is that you try it, if it works for you then you're happy :)

BTW, there are probably only 10 people on earth who shoot 308 in BR competition and these 10 WOULD NOT use this brass for a number of reasons.
 
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