Trigger hanger

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runningbear

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Hi guys, just bought my first custom action. I picked up a Bat 3 lug and it came with an extra trigger hanger. I'm not sure what this is for so this being my first custom action I am wondering what this extra piece is used for. I hope this is the right forum to be asking this question on. If not I apologize and I would appreciate it if you would direct me to the correct forum. Thanks for your time, runningbear.
 
The screw holes and the crosspin holes are located differently on the two trigger hangers. These differences allow you to "time" your trigger sear to the acton for the best function. Slight differences in triggers make this a desirable feature. Your trigger can be located at slightly different locations, fore and aft, by changing the hanger and it's orientation.
Best bet is to call BAT and get a quick explanation of the numbers that are engraved on the hangers.
 
Jay said:
The screw holes and the crosspin holes are located differently on the two trigger hangers. These differences allow you to "time" your trigger sear to the acton for the best function. Slight differences in triggers make this a desirable feature. Your trigger can be located at slightly different locations, fore and aft, by changing the hanger and it's orientation.
Best bet is to call BAT and get a quick explanation of the numbers that are engraved on the hangers.
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Jay, Idaho thanks for the information but what do you mean by timing the trigger for best function? Thanks, runningbear
 
runningbear said:
Jay, Idaho thanks for the information but what do you mean by timing the trigger for best function? Thanks, runningbear
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The firing pin should contact the trigger sear block just as you close the bolt. If it contacts too early (trigger too far rearward) you will continue to compress the firing pin spring as you close the bolt. If it is too far forward the firing pin will move forward as you close the bolt. The latter condition reduces firing pin travel which can cause problems with accuracy and consistent ignition.
There are real gunsmiths and BR shooters on the board that can better explain this than I, maybe they will chime in.
 
FWIW, I want the trigger positioned to where when you raise the bolt handle straight up and then lower it straight back down that the trigger will be reset. This way the only movement to the rear of the bolt is done by the extraction camming. If you have to move the bolt to the rear and then move it forward again, then the trigger is located too far back and needs to be changed to the next carrier location that will move the trigger closer to the receiver face. Which ever carrier location will just allow the bolt to be raised and lowered and set the trigger is the one that you want to use.
 
I remember seeing

a picture of a trigger hanger that had slotted mounting holes so the hanger could be moved fore and aft thus enabeling the timing of the trigger. This feature seemsd to me to be a Wonderful Thing. Wonder why more of the makers don't adopt this feature???
 
Pete Wass said:
a picture of a trigger hanger that had slotted mounting holes so the hanger could be moved fore and aft thus enabeling the timing of the trigger. This feature seemsd to me to be a Wonderful Thing. Wonder why more of the makers don't adopt this feature???
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Pete,

I think that most trigger hangers are made to fit the pocket that is in the bottom of the receiver. That prevents movement and makes it real easy to remove and replace the hanger without having to go though the adjustment process again.

Jay, Idaho
 
The Farley Black Widow action has slots where the screws hold the trigger hanger to the action and a set screw at the front of the trigger hanger. By turning the set screw, you can move the hanger back and forth, and then lock it down with the screws that hold the hanger to the receiver.
 
Ah So -

Mike Bryant said:
The Farley Black Widow action has slots where the screws hold the trigger hanger to the action and a set screw at the front of the trigger hanger. By turning the set screw, you can move the hanger back and forth, and then lock it down with the screws that hold the hanger to the receiver.
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Do you think this is a good or not so good feature? I had allready realized there had to be some sort of device to keep the hanger in position other than the attachment screws.

I am thinking it would be nice to be able to adjust the bolt handle's position in order to correctly position the extractor cam. What is your opinion of that as a good feature? Thanks, Pete
 
Kelblys offer hangars with different offsets for their actions because the newer Jewel triggers were varying in where they caught the cocking notch in the firing pin. Kelblys base the hangar offset needed based on the amount of firing pin fall. I believe the amount they strode for was 0.240" or more. I know I have spare Panda hangars that offset up to 0.040" the amount of which is engraved into the side of the hangars. I bought the spares for future triggers.

In either case I'd contact the action builder for a better explanation.
 
A person runs into

a couple of different but related issues when it come to bolt timing it appears to me however, an adjustable hanger / slot would save having a number of hangers and enable the correct placement of the trigger quite easily it appears to me anyway. The next thing I would like to see after the adjustabel bolt handle is 90* cocking piece / sear lever engagement surfaces.
 
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