Pics, my homebuilt Turbo stock

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jGEE

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I just couldn't wait any longer, Mr. Beggs sorta opened the door so i thought i would try something i had laying around for a stock. I have fingered my new Turbo Action till it is about wore out, i was about to 'esplode to shoot it.

Bedding a rifle seems like a black art, since i got a lot to learn i sorta bypassed the bedding issue with this attempt. I dug out the trigger opening with my drill press and a die grinder, sure be nice to have a mill one day.

The Kimber tenon and the Turbo are the same, just had to cut .200 off the Shilen i got from Mr. Fred and rechamber. It was fun to try anyway! I was suprised how it shot. I have my T-36 on it now, this target was shot with a 36x BSA. This is the first target i shot late yesterday evening. I really like the Turbo Action, it gets a little smoother each time i shoot it!!

I added my weaver today and shot a few more groups, about the same as these. I think i'm going to polish the chamber today and she how she shoots. I guess this is about a simple a stock as one can get.......

I 'shore hope you guys don't throw me off the team for abusing a nice Turbo Action, it's all in the name of science!! I'm going to work with this for a few weeks and then put it in a benchrest stock before too long, right now everything i do is a learning experience... and my shooting skills ain't that great. These are my excuses and i'm sticking too em!!
joe:)

AND -Hey it is fun too shoot, gotta different feeel to it that i'm likeing!!

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hey if it works don't nock it!!! you gotta try something till you get a stock for it right!!! great way to use you imagination my friend!!!! so how do you think it will do when you get it all together???
 
JGEE
That group on bull #23 looks good. If you get it shooting like that consistently you'l be in high cotton!
 
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Joe, put a flat piece of 3 inch wide plate on the front of that puppy and go to it. Should recoil straight back and never leave the 10 ring! Might have to add a but plate to meet the shoulder fired rule for some organizations but so what.

Dennis
 
jGEE, the Ultralite aluminum stocks for the Turbo are ready. Give me a call tomorrow at 432-631-5124.

Gene Beggs
 
Gene Beggs said:
jGEE, the Ultralite aluminum stocks for the Turbo are ready. Give me a call tomorrow at 432-631-5124.

Gene Beggs
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Mr. Gene i'll be calling in the morning, thanks!

Ok, i'm sure it's against the 'law but i "float pinned" my stock to keep the rifle straight up. I pinned it about 3/4 inch past the balance point towards the rear to keep it sorta "loaded".
Drilled a 1/2 hole in the stock and used the front stop. Mr Pappas sent me this several months back, i think he said it was the one of first one he made and was just sitting -told me to put it to good use... Well mr james it's going into service, thank you.

Now it sets dead steady like this, a bit springy if you thump it. maybe you can tune the entire rifle, not just the bbl???

Tomorrow i'll try it without the rear bag. There is not a lot of recoil with rimfire -and my rifle weights about 11 1/2 pounds.... to stiffen the "tune up" would only require going up on the stud that holds the stop to the rest.

Ok, here is my thinking - i didn't figure i'd ever get to 60 but i did, be 61 in sept... so now i'm thinking what the hell maybe 75 is doo-able, lol. That leaves me 15 years to learn about accuracy, so i'll be running some 'speriments as long as when i get up and look in the mirror and i'm still in there, lol!!

Mr Bill says a firing pin at 6'oclock would be best. Anybody hang their rimfire upside down and test that theory?? Lots of stuff to try in the next 15 years and it's gonna be fun!! joe :)

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now your thinking!! post up how it shoots like that in the last picture!! this is starting to get interesting!!! honestly was that just one shot in target 23 or a 5 shot group? if it is a 5 shot group you are onto something and buy as much of that ammo as you can!!!!!!! i'm looking foreward to seeing more of your testing with this rig!!!! are you ganna put a barrel tuner on it and start testing it again? boy i bet you are having as much fun as a man should be legally allowed to!!!!
 
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mr. nobody said:
now your thinking!! post up how it shoots like that in the last picture!! this is starting to get interesting!!! honestly was that just one shot in target 23 or a 5 shot group? if it is a 5 shot group you are onto something and buy as much of that ammo as you can!!!!!!! i'm looking foreward to seeing more of your testing with this rig!!!! are you ganna put a barrel tuner on it and start testing it again? boy i bet you are having as much fun as a man should be legally allowed to!!!!
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#23 is just 1 shot , sorry i didn't mark it as such - I think Mr. Owens was just friendly ribbin me a bit, lol. I am having fun "most" of the time -sometimes i'm pullin my hair out, lol.

I'm semi retired and was sitting on the couch, then i found "rimfire crack".... now i'm busy again chasin my tail, lol! joe:)
 
i have 25 more years till i can retire!! my job makes it hard for me cause i'm on call 24-7-365!!! i can't travel to matches that are far away!! i have to be where i can make it to work in 2 hours when the phone rings!!!! i try to get out and shoot as much as i can and enjoy it. i'm ganna try to take off and shoot in a match this saturday and start my vacation on monday!!!
 
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I tested my "pinned stock" it's the last pic above. There is no recoil movement. Just something i wanted to try.

A couple of things here, i'm asking the rest to do something it wasn't designed to do. To hold my solid tube stock tight i will have to make a slightly differnt sand bag for the front rest or add a 3 inch flat like suggested.

If someone has a link handy for "rules" for acceptable rest. Can my front sand bags rest be made out of wood?

I shot the target below today with Eley Team 1065, -downloaded off the PSl web site, i think it probably printed pretty close to actual size. there wasn't much wind today, i probably need to start learning wind flags next.

Maybe if the field was short a few players i might could forge ahead into last qualifer, lol. I think now would be a good time to quit or maybe not! joe:)
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jGee,

I like it. Just needs a three inch flat place on the front. You may need to to into production. You should solve most different material stress issues with it.
 
JGEE,
You could bore the stock forend and put in a grenade launcher as well:)
You need to get a tuner on that thing too! They work.
That barrel shows signs of being a good one with a few of those groups. In a proper stock, properly bedded, with good ammo. and a TUNER it'd probably do well once tuned in. Good luck with it.
 
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JGEE,
You could bore the stock forend and put in a grenade launcher as well:)
You need to get a tuner on that thing too! They work.
That barrel shows signs of being a good one with a few of those groups. In a proper stock, properly bedded, with good ammo. and a TUNER it'd probably do well once tuned in. Good luck with it.
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Mr. Kent you gonna make me pay for -"did your barrel fall off" comment ain't you, - i take it back -i take it back, lol. joe :D
 
Joe, I was serious about that being a barrel showing good signs of shooting. Kinda jokin' about the grenade launcher. Probably harder to get grenades than it is good match ammo anyway.

On that other deal "my brain fell off" instead of the barrel. I shot 22X's with that ole barrel this afternoon. It'll do ok with good ammo I think.
 
Beau said:
jGee,

I like it. Just needs a three inch flat place on the front. You may need to to into production. You should solve most different material stress issues with it.
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Mr. Beau i know your probably just kiddin with me -what about the front 12 -14" inches filled with heavy liquid silicone as a vibration shunt/dampner?

Some of the vibration will be taken from the barrel and added to stock. Different dia/material/length of the stock will change how the bbl vibrates. How about using the stock to stop the muzzle? A central, single mounting point for the rest might turn the stock into a tuning fork? Whew a simple tuner on the end of the bbl, no need to try and reinvent the wheel, huh!...This is something for me to try when i get old, a couple of years from now, lol!

i'm just sayin, but don't really have a clue! joe :)
 
Actually, filling the front half of the stock with shot would be a good vibration/shock dampener... All you have to do is swing a Lixie dead blow hammer to see how well that works...

Mitch & Shadow...
 
If your wondering what the heck i'm up to, me to! I'm using what i have in front of me to work with for now. I would like to learn what makes a barrel and action accurate. Yea i know it's the attention to small details -but which ones?

I modified my rest a little more today, making it more solid. I must say switching to Pappas front rest has helped, just the rest alone. i'll swith back to a rear bag and 3" fore arm here in a few weeks.

I am surprised how the 1 1/2" alum rod flexes. i can take my finger nail at the back of the stock and give it a lite flick and the stock seems to turn to rubber. it almost looks like the action is bending to! i don't see how it could be but just a nice little flick, not a hard one either -seems to bend everything up and down several times -i'm guessing total movement at least an 1/8" or more at the back of the stock. *REVISO* It does now look like most of the vibration is coming from the pedistal, which in turn is moving the rifle*

I'm not really trying to build for a class right now just trying to figure what makes one shoot. I got a lot of catching up to do with you guys.

I shot this about 8pm, getting a little dark. The gun was vibrating pretty good after the shot. Didn't seem to effect the point of impact from what i had been shooting -maybe just a bit better? It did shoot he best group of Eley Club by about 1/2". Club does not shot better than about 3/4 to 1" for me at fifty. maybe the temp was good for Club today.

this blue team shoots pretty darn good for me... about every 10th shot it spits out somewhere, the rest of the time it is better than the 10x i have. The 10x today was 1068 speed, a little wores than the 10x 1067 i have. The blue team @ 1065 speed is working the best until it spits one.


This thread may seem like rubbish to some of you guys but for me i would like to read more threads from some of you guys experimenting with rimfire. I think if a guy pays attention, it don't matter what or how your shooting -there is probably always something that can be learned. I'm gonna make more mistakes than successes. If i can just get all the mistakes out of the way in the next couple of years, might be enough successes laying around for a few "X's"! joe:)

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Mill a 1/2" wide flat behind the trigger guard and mount a 1/2" wide glide rail to the bottom of the buttstock [ see pic ].

Up front mill off about 1/2 the thickness of the round rod and mount a 3" wide plastic glide plate.

I would also suggest more work in the action area so the action sits lower in the stock. This would allow the bbl to be closer to the front bag lowering the CG.

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